The Hakko T12 stinger controller with TaoBao or Opus on how I was collecting a soldering station on the STM32 controller.

  • Price: $44.82 set

It's been six months since the previous review was written. During this time, the soldering station faithfully worked every cent invested in it. But there was one inconvenience. The number of sting cartridges began to grow inexorably, and calibrate the soldering station every time you change the sting is inconvenient, and memorize amendments not on the hairdryer Shuy. And here in the vast space of your favorite musk appears a review of Allary1980 on an advanced blowtor of a soldering station on STM32. I revered and was eager to assemble a soldering station on such a controller. Who wonders what came out of it, please under KAT(attention traffic - a large review, a lot of photos, a lot of comments and useful information).

Supplement from May 30, 2017.
In the sale appeared controllers PS with inverse (in the wrong direction) rotation of encoder
Options for dealing with this "inconvenience" at the end of the review.

Supplement from 06.03.2018
Thanks to the efforts of the Forum DmitryA and his article, we have a code generator (keygen) to activate the station after the firmware - alas no longer works, see below the new link.

Supplement from 19.04.2018
On Yandex and Google discs laid out all the firmware known to me for soldering stations, hairdryer and combo 2v1

Supplement from 05.06.2018
Cagen on Pyton and briefly how to use it
New link to online keygen code generator to activate station after firmware.


The entire set for the assembly of the soldering station (PS) was ordered on TaoVao, in different stores, references to components will be in the course of the text. Bought himself, without intermediaries, delivery to Ukraine carried out through the carrier Mist Express and its Chinese branch Meest China. Tariffs for delivery can be seen on the website meest.cn/. How much it cost delivery of components will not specify, as came a large order for several soldering stations in different sets and quantity.



So, what do we have to build PS.

Ps controller board.
The controller fee on STM32 was ordered in the store.
Taking into account the delivery to China to the carrier's warehouse, the price was $14.32.
Included in the PS board is attached: a two-length wire to connect the board to the power supply, a battery to recharge the clock while the PS is off, as well as a GX12-5P connector with a train and connector to connect to the PS board.

As you can see it v2.00

Basically, the fee is the same as in the Allary1980review. But there are a few differences:
- the quartz for the watch is proudly present in its rightful place.
The connector is a gap to connect the battery.
The controller power connector is located next to the soldering connector.
Four contactes for the controller firmware are divorced in another way and are closer to the indicator.
As we see the changes are not principled, just another option of drawing the board.

The board provides the following options:
1. The range of working temperatures is 150÷480 degrees Celsius.
2. Automatic compensation for cold share temperature in the range of 9÷99 degrees Celsius.
3. PID temperature regulation, stability of maintenance of 2 degrees Celsius.
4. For all types of HAKKO T12 (84 names), it is possible to perform an individual calibration of 3 points while maintaining PID parameters in energy-independent memory. There are also 6 custom settings. There is an opportunity to form your own list of used stings.
5. Automatic going into standby mode (you can set the time of 1÷60 minutes) with the sting temperature dropping to a set value.
6. Automatic sleep (soft shutdown) (you can set the time of 1÷60 minutes).
7. Heating speed: from room temperature to 300 degrees Celsius for most stings on average about 7 seconds (power source 24B).
8. Preservation of presets of the exposed temperature (5 values).
9. Protection from low power voltage: if the power voltage is lowered below the established value, the PS will signal a lack of power voltage, and when the power voltage is lowered below the psal threshold, it will be turned off. Very convenient when powering PS from the battery.
There are real-time clocks with a correction of course.
11. There is a screen keeper mode with a screensaver.
12. Interface language: simplified Chinese, English.

Let's take a closer look at the controller board
The fee is 62 x 30mm.



The heart of the board is the controller STM32F101CBT6,
Profile settings for different sting cartridges are stored in EEPROM ATMLH424, connection to the controller on the I2C bus.
The stabilized microcontroller and its strapping power provides IMS 2954am3-3.3, output voltage of 3.3 volts.
The power unit includes MOSFET in the plan case TPC8107, and its control transistor S9013W, .
An OLED display with a diagonal of 0.96 is used to display the information."
An encoder is used to control the controller.

Power supply.
Initially, he planned to use the "people's" power supply on 24B and 4A, as in the previous PS, under it and the hull was ordered. But in the vast expanse of TaoWao was to find a power supply designed specifically for this PS.


Claimed characteristics:
- output voltage 24B
- output current 3A
Power 72W
Size 83 x53mm.

The width is just inserted into the sleds of the hull.

It was eventually ordered.
Taking into account the delivery to China to the carrier's warehouse, the price was $6.27.
Power supply classic reverse-moving pulse based on SHIM controller OB2269C datasheet.
External inspection of BP left positive impressions - collected qualitatively, there are places with not washed flux, but they are few.
More information on the power supply
In terms of pulsed power circuitry, all the necessary cascades and elements are present on the board:
- NTC termistor at the entrance

An input jamming filter.

is a high-voltage diode bridge at 600B 1.5A

- a smoothing capacitor with a capacitor 68mkFx450V, which for a peak power of 72W, I think is enough.

The power transistor, presumably N-channel MOSFET, is located on the radiator, but the dense installation and abundance of the compound do not allow you to see its type.

- The pulse transformer in size is the same as in pulsed BP laptops.



- The output cascade is made (judging by the body and number of legs) on the diode assembly, installed on the radiator, both diodes are included in the parallel (dense installation and compound do not allow to determine the type, and no desire to plough).


- the voltage stabilisation chain is made according to the classical scheme using the IMC presumably TL431

and optopare



User Nimnul1979 when testing this power supply loaded it with 4A current, BP with such load coped, the stock is there. When the output is increased above 4A, the BP goes into defense.

Power cord connector
The power cord connector is combined with the input fuse and power switch. Bought here.

Taking into account the delivery to China to the carrier's warehouse, the price was $2.09.
I liked the performance: plastic casting without snous, high-quality contacts, do not bend.
Let's take a closer look at it.
In places where contacts are fixed in the case, there is a thickening of the walls.

Claimed parameters 250B 10A.
The electrically protective part is directly combined with the input connector.

Included fuse on 10A, I think that for PS it is too much, it will have to be replaced by 0.5A...

In the retractable part there is room for a spare fuse, which is very convenient.




Corps PS.
The hull of the PS was decided to order a metal. TaoWao offers a wide range of metal-profile cases. They differ mainly in size and color, as well as the options for the front and back.
A 150mm black-coloured dural profile was ordered for PS.
Taking into account the delivery to China to the carrier's warehouse, the price was $3.88.
Dimensions claimed by the manufacturer: 150 x88 x38mm.

Checked - matched.
Let's take a closer look at the case
The case consists of two identical P-shaped cuts of the dural profile.

This profile has guide for the boards, already sliced thread for fixing the front and back panels.

The halves of the case are connected to each other reliably, on one facet the profile "spike", on the other "groove" - everything fits just perfectly.

The case is not painted, but has an anodized coating.

is a milled plate made of durali.
Taking into account the delivery to china to the carrier's warehouse, the price was $10.15.
Included in the front panel is attached 4 fasteners under the hexagon, a handle on the encoder PS, as well as a spare plexiglass pasted with protective paper.



On the inside there are notcheds under the encoder, the indicator and the soldering connector.


Front size: 94 x42 x5mm.
The panel is slightly around the perimeter protruding beyond the case.


is a dural plate with milled holes under the power cord connector and fastening screws.


The panel is equipped with 4 fasteners under the cross screwdriver.

Taking into account the delivery in China to the carrier's warehouse, the price was $1.78.

To stop the conversations about the size of the body and whether the "people's BP" will fit into it I post a photo

Folk BP 105mm - the thickness of the controller board with a screen and 18mm connectors - a pad of network wire with contacts 27mm q 150mm

installed a "people's BP" on top of his own - everything is easy to fit in.
If the case is shorter, there may be problems.
When the review was ready for publication, another version of the case was found in the expanses of TaoWao
All at once, the full set, the length of 120mm, just under the above BP.
Its price, taking into account delivery in China to the carrier's warehouse will be $14.49.

Pen for soldering iron.
There are several types of soldering pens with Hakko T12 stings
(exotic variants of Chinese craftsmen such as such

Let's not count):
— HAKKO FX-9501

— HAKKO FM2028

- a pen from the solders of the 900 series with a special liner for the T12 sting.

Each has its pros and cons, I will not paint (willing can independently find on the Internet and here on the musk).
I myself have HAKKO FX-9501 and 907 with a liner. The first is more convenient for small work, as the cartridge itself is inserted into the handle deeper and the hand is closer to the place of ration, but the cartridge itself is fixed poorly, sometimes cranked in the handle. The second is devoid of this disadvantage and likes more. And let it be called a "fishing rod" - like a long one, you've probably forgotten what a Soviet 40/65 watt solder, that's a rod.

Therefore, when choosing a pen for the new PS, the choice fell on the 907 handle with the liner. Especially for the new controller on the STM32, the Chinese slightly modified the liner, there was a place to install a thermostor.

Also on the liner already marked places rations of five-mile cable, like a small thing, but nice.

The cost of the black pen, taking into account the delivery to China to the carrier's warehouse was $2.54.
The cost of the liner in the collection with the thermostor and ball sensor position, taking into account the delivery to China to the warehouse of the carrier was $2.61.
A five-mile wire is used to connect the soldering iron to the STM32 controller.
There was orders of wire in a silicone heat-resistant shell.

Wire diameter 5mm

The diameter of each vein is 1mm.

Taking into account the delivery in China to the carrier's warehouse, the price was $6.29 per 8 meters.
I will use 1.5 meters, therefore, its cost will be $1.18.
You can order a collected pen with a liner and wire.
Taking into account the delivery to China to the carrier's warehouse, it will cost $5.67.
But since I already had a liner (ordered a little earlier), I decided to buy a pen and wire, and independently collect a soldering iron.

Since everything is available, we start assembling.
When you install the controller board on the front panel, there was an incident. The fee, for some reason, became crooked relative to the panel.

The fault of all the emphasis, which prevents the rotation of the encoder when screwing fixing the nut.

There was no hole under it on the front. I had to put my hands on it.

Now the controller board has come to its place perfectly.
Let's move on to the case.
Having collected the body and considered it carefully, I came to a sad conclusion - there are no legs and the design does not provide them. And without legs PS will slide all over the table. I had to put my hands on it.
Found in my farm legs for PC, used the same in the previous PS.

Well, if there got used to it, then here will be just right.
The leg is a plastic cap with a diameter of 20mm with a rubber insert.

The leg is 6.5mm high.

That would not damage the coating of the case during mechanical processing pasted it with paint tape.
I marked it. He drilled holes and cut the M3 carving.

Holes with a diameter of 3mm were also drilled in the legs.

To fix the legs used M3 screws with a wide hat (used in the assembly of computers, to fix DVD drives).
The view of the assembled building satisfied me.


With the plumbing finished, we start to ration.
Let's get a pen first.
Sticking the cable to the connector is very simple, the colors lived in the cable and the colors of the wires from the board to the GX12-5P connector match.

Insert the plug plug into the socket and solder "color in color," do not forget about the isolation of contacts.

If anyone is interested, here is the match of contacts of the GX12-5P connector, contacts on the board and the colors of wires in the cable:


1 - on the board contact S, blue wire, position sensor (SW200 or mercurial)
2 - on the board contact N, white wire, termistor NTC
3 - on the board contact E, green wire, grounding of the sting and common for the thermostistor and position sensor
4 - on the board contact G, black wire, T12 -
5 - on the board contact, red wire, T12
Now we drink the cable to the liner, do not forget to put the pen beforehand.
According to the crucifixion and the markings on the liner we nail the cable transactions to the contacts.

We collect the pen, ready.

Let's move on to the installation of the power supply.
As noted earlier, the power supply is inserted into the guide enclosures. The gap under the board is sufficient, sticking out of the bottom of the case screws, which are attached legs, to the board do not get.

If you look closely at the photos on the store's website, where I purchased the power supply, you can see

that according to the Chinese engineer's plan, the BP board and the chain wire pad are tightly sparing among themselves. I didn't like this option, so I attacked the contact pads of the terminal boards,

where directly, where through small pieces of wire, for isolating them shrink.

The connection turned out to be rigid, reliable, but if necessary easy to understand.

Connect the power cord and check the voltage at the outlet of the power supply

exactly 24 volts.
It remains to mount on the front of the connector to connect the soldering iron


Connect all the available connectors, do not forget about the battery (glued on the two-way tape to the bottom of the case), twist the body and enjoy the result.
In the collected form, the PS body is 94mm wide

and 156mm long.


Cross your fingers and hold our breath to turn on...
After 3-4 seconds we see the light screen and exhale with relief - earned!


Now let's look at the work of PS.
As already noted, after the power supply, after 3-4 seconds on the screen appears the image and PS goes into working mode, which is happily reported by the built-in booster in the station.
In working mode, the PS is controlled by the handle encoder. Different combinations are available: rotating the handle, pressing the handle, pressing the handle rotation.
So what do we see on the screen:

- The top left corner shows the mode of operation and the exposed temperature for the current mode
- In the top right corner, the percentage of power supply power coming to the heating element of the sting is displayed at a given time
- To the left in the center of the screen we see the current temperature on the heating element of the sting
- From the right of the current temperature, the time built into the PS watch is displayed
In the bottom left corner, depending on the settings, either the power supply voltage or the type of sting you are used may appear. If you choose to display the chosen stinger, you'll see (0) the stinger is not calibrated,(*) the sting is calibrated.
- In the bottom right corner, the thermometer sign and the temperature of the thermosensor, used to compensate for the temperature of the cold solder, are displayed.
- also in the center of the screen at the bottom sometimes flashes current, signaling the heating of the sting.

Let's look at the management options of the PS.
When the counterclockwise encoder handle rotates, the PS mode switches: work mode (on setscreen), standby mode - Standby(SBY),sleep mode(Sleeping).

The transition to any mode of operation is confirmed by a beep. In standby, the temperature of the heating element of the sting drops to the value set in the menu. In hibernation, the temperature on the heater slowly drops to 50 degrees Celsius, after which the picture on the screen changes. The top row shows the date and day of the week, in the middle row - time (hours-minutes-seconds), in the lower - the temperature on the regret and the temperature of the thermosensor.
To transfer the PS from standby or sleep to work mode, it is enough to click on the encoder handle.

When the encoder handle rotates clockwise, the BOOST mode is activated by boost- boosted heat.

Increase the temperature of the PS sting on the value set in the settings menu and at a given time interval. After this time, the PS goes into working mode and the sting temperature drops.

If in working mode briefly click on the handle of the encoder, the PS will go into the mode of selecting presets and adjusting their temperature.

In this mode, the screen displays Set Temp, preset No.1, and the temperature. To select the next preset, you need to press and rotate the encoder handle. In the selected preset, the rotation of the encoder handle allows you to set the required temperature value, the change step is adjusted through the settings menu. When you briefly click on the encoder handle, the value is memorized and applied. As noted at the beginning of the review, 5 presets are available in total.

A long press on the encoder handle (more than 2 seconds) allows you to get into the Setup Menusettings menu. A total of 19 menu items are available. The transition between the points is rotated - the handle of the encoder, the entrance to a particular item - the click of the handle.

Let's take a look at settings menu items


- Waiting Mode settings.

This item displays:
- Stand-off mode: Auto (automatic), Shake (vibration), Switch (switch), Manual (manual).
- - the time through which PS will switch to standby (1÷60 minutes).
is a standby heat element (150÷300 degrees Celsius).
- Set up to sleep (slow shutdown mode).

This item sets up time between 1÷60 minutes before the PS goes to sleep.
- boosted heat.

This item displays:
is an increase in temperature from the current 10÷100 degrees Celsius).
is the time for which boosted heating is turned on (1÷30 minutes).
- compensation for cold solder.

This menu item adjusts the temperature correction of the heating element depending on the temperature of the environment:
Mode is a type of thermosensor used: CPU is a thermometer inside a microcontroller/NTC , a remote sensor in the pen of the soldering iron.
Temp is a temperature of cold solder (-9÷99 degrees Celsius).
- library sting.


is a step change in temperature.

This item on the menu displays a change in temperature when the encoder handle rotates (1÷50 degrees Celsius).
- password protection for the entry into the settings menu.

This item displays:
- Protection Switch: ON - on/OFF - off.
- the time before you start blocking the settings menu (1÷60 minutes).

is the screen keeper.

This item tunes in:
- screen keeper turn on: ON - on/off - off.
- the time interval after which the screen keeper starts (1÷60 minutes).
When the screen keeper is displaying a picture showing the current mode of operation (Running, Standby, Sleeping) and the temperature of the heating element of the sting.
- boozer .

This menu item adjusts the boomer state: ON - on/off - off.
- voltage.

This item on the menu adjusts the switch from the state of the bottom left corner of the display to show the current voltage value applied to the stinger (state - ON) or the type of stinger you've chosen (state - OFF).
- low voltage protection.

This item tunes in:
- Protection state: ON - on/off - off.
" is the voltage value at which a drop signal is sent below the dropped value.
- - the value of the power at which PS will be turned off.
This option is used, for example, when powering PS from batteries.
- Operation mode when you turn on PS.

This item of the menu adjusts the PS mode when it's enabled, with available values: Running, Standby, Sleeping.
is the choice of language.

This menu item selects the language of the system: simplified Chinese or English.


- Setting a date and time.
- reset in 0 seconds values (correcting the accuracy of the clock).

- - a corrective factor that affects the accuracy of the watch (-60÷/60 seconds)
Thanks to the forum man for the algorithm of correcting the course of the clock
- Reset date and time settings to the original state.
- information about the system.

This menu item shows:
HW Version is a version of the board release.
SW Version is a firmware version.

- exit from the settings menu.

When a long press on the handle of the encoder (more than 2 seconds) with a turn in the right get in the menu of the choice of custom stings.

To choose the rotation - the handle of the encoder.

With a long press on the encoder handle (more than 2 seconds) with a turn to the left we get in the menu calibration of the selected sting TipAdjust.

Options are available in this menu:
"Start is the start of the calibration.
Init Adjust - calibration reset.
- Exit Adjust - getting out of calibration mode.

Let's calibrate the sting.
Pre-entering the settings menu, in the substitution 04. Cold end and expose the type of thermosensor used. Since I have a thermosensor in the pen of the soldering iron, I choose the NTC. Next, we put the room temperature, in my case 22 degrees Celsius.
Insert in the handle of the sting, for example, let it be HAKKO BC3.
Let's start calibration.
On the screen we see:

Adjust Point is a 450-c point setting, on the screen below:
Cur Tmp is a temperature displayed on the screen
"Real Tmp is a real temperature on the regret.
Measuring the real sting temperature in any way I can, I use the HAKKO FG-100, and rotating the encoder handle, I put the Real Tmp option on the standard, according to the thermometer. Click on the encoder handle, the picture on the screen changes to
Adjust Point is a 350-c point setting.
We are calibrating at this temperature as well. Click on the handle of the encoder, the picture on the screen changes again, now on
Adjust Point is a 250-c point setting.
We are calibrating at this temperature as well. Push on the handle of the encoder, PS goes into working mode. The sting calibration is over.
Check the temperature on the screen and the tip of the sting in working mode

Calibration notes:
-- The value of Adjust Point may be different from what I've mentioned, which is not fundamental. PS is calibrated by three points: at the top of the range of available temperatures, in its middle and below.
- for better calibration, it is desirable to hold it "in one touch" - once touch the tip of the sting to the thermopara and spend all 3 stages of calibration.

If you take the sting out of the handle in working mode, THE ERROR will appear in the center of the screen

signaling about the error.

Now about the costs:
- controller $14.32
- power supply $6.27
- power cord connector $2.09
- $3.88
- front panel $10.15
- back panel $1.78
Pen $2.54
$2.61
- Wire $1.5m $1.18
Total $44.82 excluding delivery.
Weight of collected PS with handle

0.497kg.
Considering that, according to The Express tariffs, the delivery by plane of 1kg of cargo is $8, plus $1 for consolidation and $1 for the parcel,

we will get an approximate delivery cost of this PS - $7-8.

That's actually all I wanted to tell about the PS with the controller STM32.
On the trail of voice (subjective)
Pros:
Great functionality
Simple, easy-to-manage
an informative display
PID - programmatic maintenance of a given temperature
- software calibration of cold solder temperature
- software calibration of the sting temperature by 3 points for 84 standard HAKKO stings and 6 custom stings
- Forming a user list of stings used
5 presets
Cons:
-- the price, not many will want to pay $50 for a "regular soldering iron." But the desire to use a good, high-quality tool sometimes makes the "favorite animal" to get into a corner and not to interfere with living for pleasure.

I would like to thank Nimnul1979 for their inspiration, moral and technical support.

Update No1. When considering the controller board before installing it in the case, I noticed that the horizontal axis of screen symmetry is above the encoder axis. After the installation in the case, the image was draped to the top edge of the plexiglass. It's like a little thing, but it's not pretty.
Therefore, the first modernization of the PS was carried out.
Nimnul1979 with a hairdryer separated the screen from the board and fixed below by 4mm with the help of thin two-way tape.

Result

Those wishing to do this upgrade should be extremely careful, THE OLED screen is quite fragile product.
Screenshots used in the review of the settings menu were made after this refinement.
Update No2. Since the toned plexiglass under the PS indicator is larger than the screen applied, it replaced the OLED screen with the same but with a diagonal of 1.3".

Thank you all for your attention, I look forward to constructive criticism and comments.

P.S. If someone from Ukraine has a need to buy something on TaoWao, knock in person, talk.

PSS Found in China-No concept of power supply WOKA 24V3A


PSSS In the sale appeared PS controllers with inverse (wrong way) encoder rotation,this is due to the use of a different type of encoders themselves. Options for solving this "inconvenience" 3:
- replace the encoder itself with the EC11 - as on the original board
- cut the paths to the extreme contacts of the encoder (where there are 3 in a row) and jumpers to recommut them
- Re-test the controller itself, Denis,aka salamatin, made fashions for firmware for controllers PS 2.0 and 2.1S. Firmware on the soldering stations, hairdryer and combo 2v1 in the top to replace the display and then yadisk or google .

PSSSs vulkan35 provided a list of details of this board

Kembrik provided the 2.1S controller scheme
At leisure, I drew a 2.1S controller diagram. Some of the components are not signed because he drew from pictures from the Internet, there is no controller on his hands.


anton713 provided the controller scheme 2.0

Kembrik, vulkan35 and anton713 thank you very much for providing information.

Additional materials: WOKA PS scheme, WOKA BP, STM32_T12_oled_v2.0 scheme
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  • kirich
  • 01 ноября 2016, 01:14
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I read almost everything, but I already approve, five points :)
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I think there's everything in the collection, why this hemorrhoid?
And the controller displays the info on the voltage display
It's been three months, it's been a great machine, it's melting everything.
aliexpress.com/item/New-220V-OLED-T12-Digital-Soldering-Iron-Station-Temperature-Controller-72W-With-EU-Plug-T12-Handle/32674414332.html
and another box of Ketay canifoli and T12 anyone to choose from))
I chose the microwave T12-bcM2
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Using the tool, collected with their own hands, is much more pleasant () Plus the pleasure of the "hand-beludy".
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  • qwerty2
  • 01 ноября 2016, 02:31
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In the spring, when I unearthed this controller, the finished device cost more than 100 evergreens.
Again, I do not see on what chip is built, for me it would be critical that on stm32, the Chinese SCT is not interesting.
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What makes you think I'm hemorrhoids?
I was mastering the new TaoWao market.
A useful thing collected with their own hands increases the credibility among friends and own EGO.
And now essentially...
Looked at your link. Even a quick look at the graphics on the screen indicates that you use a Chinese STC controller, and it is much "poorer" in functionality, and there is not half of the stif.
On STM32, the finished station will cost from $65 and up.
And the controller displays the info on the voltage display
If you have read the review carefully, you might have noticed that this PS can also display the stress info, the percentage of SHIM filling (the percentage of power BP pumped into the sting), and can also control the input voltage when running from the batteries.
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Well, yes, STC. What's wrong with him?
STM is overloaded with unnecessary unnecessary information.
The main temperature and power control is the stability of the voltage of the food.
especially for different tasks need a different temperature for one sting.
picks up empirically in the parrots, which gives out the controller.
who is shooting a lot, roughly intuitively knows what temperature to put.
It is not clear why this data is brought into memory.
and the power supply is folk you have weak, for smd will go, and if you need more power,
it's just going to fail.
I took your own picture, here's the photo.

Honest 72W power 6r385p on a decent radiator, diode bridge kbp 307
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Well let's take the points:
1. On stm not something not overloaded, you probably did not deal with the prof. equipment, this controller is just made with a good idea in the spirit of the pros :)
2. STC controller is made without linearity calibration, i.e. your controller does not have three-point calibration, one unpleasant moment comes out of it, your calibration will be accurate only in the middle of the temperature range... down and up will be parrots ;)
3. It is also very convenient to have all the profiles of Khakovskiy stings in the controller, because the PID regulator works with them... and knows how to customize integrals... to work with one or another sting!
4. The power supply is not weak, it fits this controller fairly, the right current keeps... and again these controllers have a "soft-start" mode... which does not give the weak BP "suffocate" on a cold pit.
5. Tell me, where is the cold sleep compensator in your controller? And where do you think it's better to position it?
who is shooting a lot, roughly intuitively knows what temperature to put.
It is not clear why this data is brought into memory.
then we draw a conclusion... why then controllers at all, you can take a Soviet soldering iron- dimer ... It's intuitive, isn't it?
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I understand that you think this handkerchief is professional equipment?
with a set of Ketay T12 hacco))
Why these extra settings?
to change on the board Mosfet or simple controller? Normally it works. Very versatile, you can work with smd elements and kettles to lute.
other equipment is needed for more complex tasks.
and this BP is more suitable for eating a Christmas tree garland than for a soldering station.
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I understand that you think this handkerchief is professional equipment?
Did you see that I was writing it? Can read 1 more paragraph again.
with a set of Ketay T12 hacco))
And who forbids you to use the original stinger ... Frog? :)
to change on the board Mosfet or simple controller? Normally it works. very versatile, you can work with smd elements and
kettles are a hustle.
other equipment is needed for more complex tasks.
We talked about the controller and its work as well as how they differ from each other.
and this BP is more suitable for eating a Christmas tree garland than for a soldering station.
You probably don't know about the size of the size))) and you haven't heard about the non-button PPs either? because they are also small and powerful.
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We talked about the controller and its work as well as how they differ from each other.
Well, yes, that's what I meant.
STC minimum is no worse than STM
why this calibration, if very much depends on the state of the sting, and the quality of solder?
To dickly calibrate a few stings? For what???
Know a man who only comes down with an axe, used to just, 128 pin controllers easily.
You only need experience and skill and will not help any ranges on three points and a compensator cold ration.
especially with this device)) the cat is designed to replace simple smd items.
I don't know why all these bells are going on.
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STC minimum is no worse than STM
Well, that's when things get clear.
Pros - it and in the 40W solder smd resistors 0403 will change easily. And the pan will be sealed, intuitively. And the Chinese 8bit STC will deliver where STM32 is needed. :))))))
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why this calibration, if very much depends on the state of the sting, and the quality of solder?
To dickly calibrate a few stings? For what???
If you're talking like that, why do you need a controller at all? you have enough ordinary soldering iron with a good copper sting ;) and your ability to ;)
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  • qwerty2
  • 02 ноября 2016, 11:08
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STC minimum is no worse than STM
You still haven't moved on with mp39, once so boldly claim it. You compare a scooter and a lexus.
To dickly calibrate a few stings? For what???
I've got stinging heels, but I use two of them all the time. Basic BCM2 and C1 for very thin places. Of course, I can climb into such a place with an axe, but why ??? I'm not a pervert, I have a sting for every job.
especially with this device)) the cat is designed to replace simple smd items.
I have this main apparatus, I feed them a family and tsop's solder more often than "simple" smd.
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Don't try to prove anything to him, the man first bought the station and the practice of going on an axe remained, he believes that his station is assembled at the plant :) With super accurate calibration, in sterile conditions.
If a person soldered at different PS he would appreciate this controller and would use his buns 100%
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What to be surprised, you just need to read the NEC carefully
;)))
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  • qwerty2
  • 01 ноября 2016, 20:26
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stm32 on the cortex core, I'm on it my projects and there was even a thought here to fix the firmware. But it's not interesting to read Chinese dates on their Chinese interest with an ancient core.
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and there was even a thought to fix the firmware here.
And I'm sorry, do you have a source?
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  • qwerty2
  • 01 ноября 2016, 23:19
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Unfortunately, there is no, but the source of the TS100 is on the network. There's a stone stm32f103, but the differences are minimal. I was planning on picking up the firmware before I felt the controller. Because everything in it suited me, and the pick-off fell away.
imgmgr.banggood.com/images/upload/2015/11/TS100/TS100%20V2.11%20Source%20Code%20New.rar
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 00:10
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Honest 72W has NO ONE even the branded station Hakko on T-12 stings.
Since there is a pulsed power with breaks on measurements plus SHIM.
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On STM32, the finished station will cost from $65. And above
not from 65 but about so will cost
and there the BP will be a normal stand, not like yours, to charge mobiles.
and factory assembly and delivery is included in the cost
And I didn't understand the tension. some % of the chima download. Nonsense
How can the controller know what power you have BP.
Add then to the review video as you melt a piece of solder with peas and readings of the power-strained handles
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And I didn't understand the tension. some % of the chima download. Nonsense
How can the controller know what power you have BP.
Masterpiece!!! Write more! :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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  • Nik72b
  • January 6, 2020, 23:12
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This is referring to the loading at the moment of the power supply., when PID regulation load (the soldering iron) connects briefly and with different frequency.
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  • Nik72b
  • January 6, 2020, 23:07
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Great review! Thank you!!! You-Well-done!!!
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  • DDimann
  • 01 ноября 2016, 09:23
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If you look carefully at the photo in the comments of the lot, there is still SCT ...
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not a bad option, but the case is plastic and what BP is not known
my option was cheaper
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I agree, so BP to take the folk for 8 tanks, controller and handle in this magaz for 25 and 13 sout., and the body where will like, and the delivery will be turned on and the price is almost the same as you have. But still the toad presses - professionally ration and repair do not do, for their needs and personal repair I use the usual 60W with a dimmer. The sting sharpened and sunk on the hairdryer. I've been sitting for the second month and I'm thinking - if for prof. I do not use jobs and there is no money especially superfluous, then it seems not worth it probably that !?!? In short the eternal delam:: Tu bi or music that bi :)
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Toad to corner, let life not interfere with ;)
And where to take and how to decide for yourself
On Tao is really cheaper, my kit with an expensive case cost $51. The only thing you need to figure out a little bit is how to buy ;)
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  • spirit0
  • 03 ноября 2016, 00:54
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Does it all weigh a kilo?
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Photo PS on the scales is in the review, if read, then saw.
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you'll need help buying, knock on the face
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  • tianddu
  • 01 ноября 2016, 12:05
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so there's even the color of the board it's clear that the controller isn't STM
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  • salgol
  • 01 ноября 2016, 01:29
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I've been looking at this controller for a long time. For the review plus. He went to strangle the toad.
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  • bvb73
  • 01 ноября 2016, 01:43
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Work worthy of respect, plus unequivocally!
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  • Amid77
  • 01 ноября 2016, 01:46
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It's a good job. I do.
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for the first time I meet that the economic component for a fully completed product is so detailed.
Very interesting and instructive; good luck to the author in his (possible:) Plans!
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  • nick23
  • 01 ноября 2016, 06:19
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To the reviewers ps.
On YouTube, there is little demonstration of ps's work on T12 with visualization of wattmeter, external thermopa (on a pity or landfill) and a stopwatch (can be virtual).
If you take the average or massive sting, the viewer will be able to compare the speed of THE PS response by power and, for example, compare with the same stings of the 900-series with the air layer (although to record a comparative video - it would be even better) to decide to buy or replace the PS.
The sting 900 series is more warm-intensive. But because of the air gap - the power in watts transmitted complain - will be less, and the stability of the temperature on the regret - lower. This means that the heating speed of the landfill will be less and for a comfortable ration of large landfills or massive boards - will have to put the temperature at 50-100 degrees more or longer to warm, which is undesirable for the product.
Monolithic stings T12 - actually compete with more expensive induction blowers 90-120 watts on a thermopara or curie point (the latter is problematic IMHO), having less weight and better mobility (or the difference in the speed of rations - for a conventional ration - is not fundamental). And at times bypass the PS on the stings of 900 series IMHO. Such a video could clearly demonstrate this.

More.
In inexpensive Chinese stings T12 is not enough copper compared to the originals. They will probably have to be activated quite often with thermal zinc chloride zinc. But due to the array of stainless alloy in the sting - such stings will serve for a long time and complain can give any complex shape. And so get not particularly expensive stings which are not on Ali (and even hakko T12): T12-1612 Concave, T12-1610 Concave (can be combined with miniwave), 900M-T-R Shape-R, 900M-T-RT Shape-RT (for SMD rations). Or more expensive stings from the cheap: BCM from The Sun.
The method above can be compared the work of Chinese sting t12 and the original hakko.
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  • Vorgen
  • 01 ноября 2016, 21:37
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I'd like to know more about zinc
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  • nick23
  • 01 ноября 2016, 23:20
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Cleaned the stinger "stroke" in the form of stainless polished scissors (blunt rounded side), with medium pressure. So you can get a "new" shiny from a dirty sting.
But after the operation, there may be problems with wetting the work surface solder. It is necessary to use active fluxes for rations of steel and stainless steel. In particular, the most primitive is the saturated solution of zinc chloride (zinc chloride) and a couple of drops of slat acid (a solution heavier than water). Or simple zinc dissolved to the point in the sly acid. Or any zinc-based purchase. Do a search of the site should be details (sort of combined with ammonium chloride).
From wiki flux to rations of black metals: Strong-acid fluxes ("active fluxes") zinc chloride.
You can wipe the work surface of a clean heated sting with a temperature of 250 degrees and above on all sides with a solution on a cotton stick. Or touch the heat-heated sting drop (working surface in all parts).
From Google:
Thermochemical diffusion zinc
The essence of the method is to form zinc on the surface of the iron by switching zinc atoms at temperatures above 260 degrees C into the steam phase and penetration into the iron substrate; this creates an iron-tissue alloy of a complex phase structure. The formation of such coating is possible only at high temperatures of 400-450 degrees C and in a confined space retort or mufeels filled with zinc-containing parts and zinc-containing powder mixture.
The coating is flat and has a high adhesion to the substrate due to the diffusion layer;
- the protective ability of coating is 3-5 times higher than that of galvanic coatings and is comparable to hot-tick coatings;
The disadvantages of the process include:
- no decorative properties in the diffusion zinc coating (covering dark gray gray without glitter);
If there is dry salt mixed with ammonium chloride, it may be even better.
The resulting (micron) layer of zinc does not dissolve in the solder and serves for a long time (or already native alloy works after all the bullying, especially with canifol). It is unrealistic to break stainless steel without zinc, steel.

I love the "T12-1610 Concave" sting with a microwave made from the usual sun2. T12-1612 Concave with microwave can be made from Sun3.
For very aesthetes 900M-T-R Shape-R can be made from T12-DL52.
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  • Vorgen
  • 02 ноября 2016, 21:22
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I tried to fill the sting with ammonium chloride, canifol- to no avail. Solderic acid had a short-term effect. I'll try to play with mixtures of ammonium chloride and solderic acid and temperature.
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 00:34
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To service the stinger chloride ammonium sting should be briefly heated to 350-400g. "Activators sting from China" www.youtube.com/watch?v=h71VQ_MC600
It's working great.
Stinger, Solins TTS-20 (20g)
pripoi.ru/product_info.php?products_id=1199
SOLINS TTS-20 (tip tinner and cleaner) is designed to clean and clean very charred stings that can no longer be cleaned with pulp sponges, bronze shavings or be etshest with soldering.
Application:
1. Bring the soldering iron temperature to t'300-450? C.
2. Load the heated stinger into the medium at an angle of 45?, and rotate slowly.
3. The product melts, actively cleans and clouds the sting.
4. Remove the slags and excess tin with a damp pulp sponge.
5. If the sting has not recovered, repeat the procedure.
Composition:
ammonium phosphate, thin tin powder, binder.
Supplement: Ammonium phosphate and ammonium chloride work the same way.
YOU CAN'T HAVE ACID! Acids spoil eternal stings.
After the acid should be used restorative sting.
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 00:27
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And which firms use zinc iron coating on their stings?
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 00:36
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(They will probably have to be activated often enough by thermal zinc zinc zinc zinc.)
Where and by whom is it recommended? Which firm?
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  • Vorgen
  • 04 ноября 2016, 10:18
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The stinger probably works well but costs more than the new Chinese stinger.
I need not to restore the charred sting and to fill a new-caught marriage, half the sting of solder sticks, to the other is not, to the other is not comfortable.
I wonder what stings are all about when they're made.
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 13:29
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The new one is just the Activator.
In the production of ammonium chloride or ammonium phosphate. (home link was, if necessary).
I polish the eternal curves of Chinese stings with a skin zero and then sprinkle with homemade activators on the recipe below.

Make the activator itself is not a problem. gram 3-5 viscous synthetic Chinese flux, the type discussed here, for dilution and viscosity of powder (type "vaseline" soldering neutral not smelly non-resin and charcoal Then you need a soldering paste (any) of microbeads solder or tin (old dried and unfit-diluted it with pure gasoline Kalosha, Sippo, acetone, isopropyl alcohol ... You can buy sanitary paste! (not fluus) for rations of copper pipes made from tin alloy and 3% copper (the most expensive component) in the santech market.
((Composition containing water solution
17.1% Chloride zinc and 1.5% ammonium chloride.
For flux paste up to 60% S-Sn97Cu3 and
Ammonium chloride in the range of 1.5-2.5%
Total water amount 20% for pasta .))
In the mixture of paste you will have 60-70-80 percent in volume, on the eye.
Then mix everything to a state of gray-steel color with small crystals (wash) such as pasta or cement by mind, dilute the solvent to a state of sour cream for good mixing.

Here are my more recipes:
ACTIVATOR JAL
Ammonium chloride
Sn62 Pb Ag2 88%
plus IF 8300

ACTIVATOR JAL
Ammonium chloride 30%
Pasta Sn97 Cu3
17% zinc chloride
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  • Vorgen
  • 04 ноября 2016, 16:35
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Made it easier. The sting of a drop of solder in ammonium chloride powder unfortunately did not help.
Perhaps the reason for the poor mechanical processing - on the conical regret that the part that lusts has a rough surface as a sandpaper passed, which is not loose-smooth. And in general, the sting looks slightly bent. Why don't you try a looka much without bigotry?
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  • nick23
  • 04 ноября 2016, 18:12
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There are recipes for rations of aluminum under a layer of flux. For example in this guide: anytech.narod.ru/Selector.htm

Factory activators to improve rations are recommended to be used a couple of times a day.
Click electrik.info/main/praktika/863-kak-obludit-neobgoraemoe-zhalo-u-payalnika.html
It is said that the canifol when rationing more than 300 degrees - spoils the Chinese stings with a tan. And in fact, more than 300 degrees (or better less) Chinese stings are not recommended. Accordingly, this will drastically reduce the need to use activators.
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 19:39
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Pour the working part of the sting zero sand to a smooth shiny state on the working gland.
Load into the wash and heat up to 400g.
Do not drive a drop of solder and first a naked sting in the wash to fry and THEN in a drop of solder.
At 99.9% should be stydl even if nickel or the Chinese put on a sting unknown what.
Or you don't heat the sting over 350!!!g.

That's a mystery by the way.
Nickel on contacts is easily snuggled but only not on the stings, the one that is applied from above.
This nickel is a horseradish in the wash and at 450g!!!
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  • nick23
  • 04 ноября 2016, 16:50
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Books on chemistry, ration (and not only) of various alloys will be useful: "Tips to the factory technologist".
Lots of solders and flux (with zinc chloride).
As well as the "Recipe Guide for Electrical Engineering"
Hryapin V.E. - Solder's Handbook
Petrunin I. E. - A Brief Handbook
There's a rutrecker on it.

Theoretically, you can pick up neutral fluxes that do not require laundering (tests preferably checked with a megometer in high humidity) or washed away by water. And replace them expensive purchase (with an unknown composition).
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need help.
tried to confuse the activator on the recipe - the mixture I received does not work :(

powder
MECHANIC Sn63/Pb67 Solder Paste Flux XG-50
flux gel kingbo RMA-218
added a little alcohol.

Wait until he's dry.
tried at temperatures of 300-350-400 on the station.
from the mixture when immersing the sting immediately stand out the crystals of the wash and stick to it (complain).
No puddle occurs.

in the process of experiments, I tried to reduce the number of washers and cleaned alcohol - added small sawdust solder after the file (the paste was a pity to translate) - the result is the same.

The only thing that the snu bit didn't cut back on. perhaps it makes sense to grind a smaller one?
What should the process with a homemade activator look like?
how is youtu.be/h71VQ_MC600?t=206 with the melting of the powder and the release of liquid?
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  • wwest
  • 27 марта 2017, 11:21
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Nado's wax is sure to grind into a fine powder in a mortar!
Or you have a fake snuap as an option.
Because usually get around the general in the dry wash is excellent! And even without grinding in balls!
As a variant of the station, the station will be lying on the temperature-check heat-pair separately on the TIP of the sting.
Liquid is not liquid (this flux melts if there is a lot of it) and smoke goes... Yes, it looks like this, but I have a liquid flux less than 2 times and the "liquid" almost does not stand out.
Well, clean the sting should be from dirt too in a sponge or shavings.

Alcohol is not worth adding-it contains water.

(((from the mixture when immersing the sting immediately stand out the crystals of the wash and stick to it (complain).
no puddle is happening.)) Low temperature, fake snuar.
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um, I'll try to clarify with the temperature.
I doubt that the styr was forged... it's not worth much already
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  • wwest
  • 27 марта 2017, 16:58
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Well, not "special" yes.
They scratched what was out of the vat, and the inscription fell off.
Either poorly cleaned or a mixture of chemicals or a tank wash forgotten or the barrels dirty. I wouldn't be surprised.

Another option: fake sting coating from HCH.
I have homemade activators worked on all of my bought stings.How 900 for 30 cents (pieces 30 bought, half garbage) and T-12 for 4-6 dollars.
And a variety of compositions worked: from the German flux and German branded paste and washer from the radio base.
From the Chinese flux of RMAA and the plumbing Polish paste tin and washer with a radiobarazar... Etc.
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Just in case, I understand the proportion correctly?

60-80% soldering paste (soldered sawdust)
20-30% wash detergent powder
petrol, flux to taste (bring the mixture to the desired consistency)
?
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  • salgol
  • 01 ноября 2016, 07:38
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Dear you almost sawed the review, only pictures are not enough)))
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A very decent overview-instruction for future buyers :) The author plus for a lot of work done.
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And thank you, if it were not for the help and support of that review might not have been
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  • DDimann
  • 01 ноября 2016, 09:31
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For about a week I consider such controllers on tao, so it's time. And the review is good. I'm definitely going to do it.
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There are at least 3 controller execution options on Tao
https://world.taobao.com/item/529311405029.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/536743632166.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/533893277847.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/534001432051.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/529249246589.htm is the latest version of 2.1S

There are few fundamental differences, mainly the draw of the board. The 2.1S is slightly different graphics on the display.
All these clones of Chinese design 2014
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Is there one for a hairdryer? Or is it possible to use it somehow?
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Wait for the next review ;)... also on STM32
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What about the controller?
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And look below?
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Well, it's unlikely that Nimnul1979 has another link.
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the link will be the same, we were at a couple of stations collecting ;)
and soldering hair dryers will also order together
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Here's a photo of the board and a view of the menu:
https://mega.nz/#F!lgECXRaL!grKPEF49VUvZJ_9TLbUiWw
As you can see from the photo, the controller will gather the soldering pad controller.
THE PHOTOS are not my ;)
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Everything can be ;)
https://world.taobao.com/item/44332637581.htm - hairdryer as a separate device
https://world.taobao.com/item/521250763857.htm is a soldering iron - hairdryer on a single board

The first option in the purchase, will come, collect, perhaps and the review will take place
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  • fafhrd
  • 01 ноября 2016, 16:28
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world.taobao.com/item/521250763857.htm is a soldering iron - hairdryer. Here's an interesting way to switch the interface from Chinese to English?
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Through the menu. When dumped at the factory, the choice of language is offered
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Make the review necessary! preferably the same detailed. judging by the comments of those wishing to repeat will be not alone.
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Solder stm32 - hairdryer in one case is my dream! I'm waiting for a review of the hairdryer - you have interesting reviews!..
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I'll have a hairdryer separately.
everything has already arrived, but the abundance of holidays...
option where the hairdryer is soldered in one case I didn't order
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The 2.1S version has an inconvenient input. From the links, I don't see a controller like yours, but with a 1.3-inch display.
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From the links, I don't see a controller like yours, but with a 1.3-inch display.
This does not exist, but if you wish, you can install it yourself
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  • DrBOBAH
  • 01 ноября 2016, 11:25
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Thank you. but VERY INTERESTING was to read. I'm just thinking about what to take.
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To take unequivocally...
- any controller, references to the options gave above.
The case, the one that at the end of the description of the case in the review, is https://world.taobao.com/item/538942773646.htm
- the power supply at your discretion, but in the case that the link "people" may not fit, long 120mm
Pen at your discretion
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And in this case the controller with 1.3" display will fit in?
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Yes these panels are designed to install 1.3" displays.
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  • Kvi
  • 01 ноября 2016, 19:08
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As far as the photo shows, the display with SPI protocol?
And 1.3" also look with SPI? (IIC displays probably won't fit?)
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The hairdryer controller has just I2C on the screen
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  • Kvi
  • 01 ноября 2016, 20:09
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I probably put it in the wrong place - my question was about the soldering pad controller from this review.
And there's a photo clearly not I2C.
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Yes there is SPI, although there are boards and with I2C, perhaps the firmware is a little different and is oriented under a different fee.
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The I2C display, pictured with the display shows signed contacts: GND VCC SCL SDA.
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  • Kvi
  • 02 ноября 2016, 08:54
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And to the right of SDA SCL two more pins and they are involved.
Can you tell me why? I believe it's a versatile Oled display with a switchable interface (I2C - SPI).
If you're wrong, correct me.
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I'm confused now. Read on the Internet about this module, but did not understand I2C he or SPI, but really involved four pins not counting power.
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That's what I saw. It's just that six pins have a misunderstood interface.
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All these displays have the same train, the difference only in the handkerchief-transition, if you bought will not work, you just need to plough a new display on the handkerchief from the old display, at least, so wrote in the first branch about this controller.
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6 pins are different:
- https://world.taobao.com/item/530763498769.htm - the same interface is used in this PS with a screen of 0.96"
https://world.taobao.com/item/45616146302.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/520184656253.htm
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  • ID88888
  • 01 ноября 2016, 11:28
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That's a great review.
The only question is, could you find everything from one seller?
Delivery to China 10-12 yuan and if you take five (for example) positions from different sellers, the overpayment can be up to 50-60 yuan (about 7-8 dollars at the rate of alipei)
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Of course, you can at the same seller where the controller was taken, I actually did so.
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Not all that I wanted, was at one seller, so bought from different.
Shipping to China ranges from 0 to 17 yuan (what I met). It all depends on the weight and distance.
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  • ID88888
  • 01 ноября 2016, 12:03
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There's still a moment.
You took four sets, so the Chinese sizzling per unit turned out to be less.
If you take one set on this scheme, it will be much more expensive.
And most likely to turn out more expensive than the finished kit from the seller with normal controllers.
Once again - the review is super, but for the buyer of one set most likely there is no sense to bother collecting different components from different sellers.
And is it worth the difference in the set-?

Upd
B again - review super-full and you can even say will become a textbook on PS on stm32
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ordered 4 BP and 4 sets for the case, the rest on trifles in different quantities
If you take one set on this scheme, it will be much more expensive.
when describing each component, I gave the final price of delivery to China for 1pc. (what really was not interesting to you, because you did not voice), the same price counted when calculating the cost, so the cost of one set is relevant, there are links, you can count and see yourself
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  • tianddu
  • 01 ноября 2016, 12:09
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now we move to this topic?) The power supply is certainly good but it's not tested on a long load of 72 watts, 3A is the maximum or how? The rest is of course class. Ordered so far the people's BP and the handle 2028. And that's it... the rest has stalled and I think for the better... There were 1.3 inch ice displays, there were enclosures available. I want to order a hairdryer in the same box...
From here we need to find:
2 cases, hairdryer/solder controllers on STM32, 2 meters 5/1mm, 2 meters 8-1mm))
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The power supply is certainly good but it's not tested on a long load of 72 watts, 3A is the maximum or how?
The power supply tested the truth fluently, loaded the output with a powerful resistor (100W)... Unit held 4A... A little more immediately went to the defense. I think it 3-3.5A will calmly withstand, even if you consider that the BP in the soldering station works in short-term mode, only at the start is the consumption of current and the controller is not so blunt))))))) it has a software start ;) ... So don't worry about everything going to be hockey)))
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From here you have to find: 2 cases, controllers hairdryer/solder on STM32...))
links above already posted, see my comments
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Unfortunately, there is no such controller on Ali, or I would gladly upgrade my station. Very lacking the calibration of each sting.
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Unfortunately, there is no such controller on Ali
who told you so stupidly
at the beginning of the discussion link
True price $25 with trifle
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I've already read the comments, so I haven't seen it.
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  • mzr910
  • 01 ноября 2016, 18:08
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The delivery is fine and how to pay for taobao ???, before as it was all very exotic ???
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  • Kvi
  • 01 ноября 2016, 18:43
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Therefore (so as not to bother with payment, delivery, etc.) ordered on the link above, but on Ali - there everything is much easier. Of course more expensive, but not fatal.
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For such a difference, you can also bother with the experience.
In a plastic case 5 270.11 rubles.
After correspondence with the seller and the story about the wanted asked to add the goods from TaoBao to which the producer did not break and made new positions, but the price tag at the end went off the scale: link 1, link 2
Particularly off the price of the controller and power supply 24V 4A 6A

The only thing that stops is feedback about carriers and no guarantees.
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  • Kvi
  • 05 ноября 2016, 09:36
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You're a little late. I took such a set (though without soldering iron - I already have it) took a week ago for 2092r. Now in the suburbs of 11.11 sellers have sharply raised prices, and 11.11 supposedly will make a discount. In general, who did not have time - you have to wait a couple of weeks (maybe more) and prices will return to normal appearance
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Which is now 5270.11 rubles. was it 2092p?

The price tag was noticeably raised, I already understood that.
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  • Kvi
  • 05 ноября 2016, 12:19
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Bought it: aliexpress.com/item/STM32-Controller-T12-D24-T12-I-Electronic-Soldering-Iron-Station-Case-110-240v-70w-Digital-For/32755410816.html
October 31 IT cost: 2220r.18k. With the coupon of this store as a result: 2089r.71k.
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With this 11.11 all crazy the Chinese went crazy.

Until 12.11 I understood nothing to buy if not sure that it is really a discount.
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Is that on Ali?
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  • Kvi
  • 09 ноября 2016, 08:45
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Here are the same sets, from the same seller, but without the 11.11 ru.aliexpress.com/store/other-products/1486111.html
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I would not say that the prices are very cheap:
US $23.68
US $12.05
US $12.46
US $88.69 (11.11 - US$66.52)

On Tao cheaper
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  • Kvi
  • 09 ноября 2016, 11:06
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I know it's cheaper on Tao.
Shopping specialists on Tao, write a detailed murzilka with photos, as optimal (price, delivery time, minimum clicks on the keyboard) to shop on Tao.
We're going to go with Ali :)
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but the price tag at the end has skyrocketed: link 1, link 2
price tag even for Ali horse, better on Tao
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I read about the carriers, how afraid to buy there, no guarantees. A lot of negative reviews and it is unclear what the price for the services of the carrier will be after payment of the goods.
It all looks muddy for the first time.
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this is my first purchase at Tao, but I wasn't a trailblazer, I was a fellow mentor who bothered to buy just like that.
As you can see, it worked out.
The carrier receiving the goods to the warehouse checks it, compares with the data on the store's website, if desired, you can (for additional money naturally) do a check/photo report.
Consultation support online, in Russian language,
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I think many here would be interested to see the details of the carrier's payment services from your personal office meest.cn. Of course, the honesty of the carrier when calculating its services.
I just immediately cooled down to this idea when I read the fresh (2016) reviews about the three leading carriers to Russia.
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A little misunderstood what exactly you wanted, but here are 2 orders, total parcel weight, total value and shipping cost
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Yes, exactly what you need.

Do they have human?
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rate, as in your bank, you pay with the bank card
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So, just in case, I asked.
Ali, for example, his course, although I also pay with a card.
However, they seem to be at once in rubles put the price.
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However, they seem to be at once in rubles put the price.
Expose in the currency in which you set yourself up in the browser
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pay just like on ali with a visa card that is attached to your account on Tao.
Ali, it's much easier. Of course more expensive, but not fatal.
Well, as I say, on Ali the controller fee is $25 with a trifle, on Tao $14 with a trifle - delivery - good difference
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To stop further conversations about the size of the case and whether the "people's BP" will fit into it I put the photo here and in the review

Folk BP 105mm - the thickness of the controller board with a screen and 18mm connectors - a pad of network wire with contacts 27mm q 150mm

installed a "people's BP" on top of his own - everything is easy to fit in.
If the case is shorter, there may be problems.
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  • tough
  • 01 ноября 2016, 22:32
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How to find a seller with lots of copper in regret? Or take the originals?
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Push, everything is simple or the original for a lot of money or lotare in search of a decent seller ;)
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The original Hakko T12 doesn't have copper either. Because the tip of the sting is perfectly attracted by the magnet. Difference from the Chinese - the covered coating on the originals is better, does not darken and does not burn out even with constant work at 400 degrees. For a Chinese sting, long-term work in such mode is a sting in the trash. If you solder at 260-300grad lead-containing solders - there is no sense to buy the original. If the ration is mostly unsalting at high temperature - it is better to go bankrupt, work much nicer will be. (all from personal experience).
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 00:24
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The German stings of Weller are also attracted by the magnet.
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 00:59
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Surely there is no copper?
"Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers..." ©

And there's more copper.
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 01:33
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www.kit-e.ru/articles/circuitbrd/2003_7_186.php
NAKCO replacement tips
for rations
Replacement tips (more spread
the term - heads) used
NACCO solders were the first
1976. The main task
this design was to provide a maxi
heat transfer from head to contact
that ration, as well as maintaining the profile of the holo-
for a long time, even if it is
a needle with a radius of 0.1-0.2 mm.
The base of the head is pure copper,
The battery is a wonderful battery
Heat (Figure 7). It was made of
not yet for the very first solders. Copper
protected from burnout by a layer of clean
(99,9%) 300 microns thick iron. It is a
a fine conductor of heat, at the same time
time because of its physical properties,
lezo reliably retains the shape of the copper
it has been inflicted, providing such an appropriate
maximum long-lasting head.
The working surface of the head is covered
we're going to eat iron. To protect against corrosion
on the entire surface of the head (except
(work surface) a layer of chromium.
The proposed solution is now widely accepted
changes in the heads of all the leading firms. And ane-
Plato Products Inc.
is based on the release of heads of such multi-layered
designs for all the world's leading firms:
HAKKO, Pace, Weller, Ersa, O.K Industries, Antex,
Esico, Adcola, Ungar and many others.
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  • nick23
  • 02 ноября 2016, 09:25
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There are boo originals on taobao. But first you need to do tests on the given power in the landfill. I don't think there's going to be a significant difference. Although there may still be a difference in wetness solder.
If even old stings can easily be dissolved and converted to copper from cable, silver, what zinc bronze (though hardly persistent), with the restoration of thermal conductive cement-glue - it is generally super.
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I'd buy a controller to try that beast. According to the descriptions looks all very worthy, I want to feel. But in the form of a fee on Ali it is not, and on Tao is too difficult to buy everything. Maybe who knows where you can buy such a controller separately for the money you're applying for?
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Already found in the discussion, I apologize for the inattention.
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  • nick23
  • 02 ноября 2016, 09:30
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Power should be displayed in the classic method - a well-visible strip indicator (as it is done at induction stations), or at least as signal power on smartphones, not in %.
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Well, it's to the developer, as he wanted, and displayed
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Yes, on Metcals and done, the scale attached to the complaining power ... That's just who looks during the rations on display. The feature is useless a little more than completely. Is that when trying to seal the pan - look at the display and understand all the futility of their attempts, because the power is applied 100% and the pan does not warm up :-)
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  • tough
  • 02 ноября 2016, 10:35
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But for example the sting from Jovy System originals?
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As a user of this station I have 2 original stings from Jovi Systems.
About the station I can say only good, the only drawback is the size, on my small desktop too much space takes up.
But the "original" sting from Jovi - no different in quality from the Chinese T12. Although they are much more expensive.
It is better to pay a little more and take the original Hakko, I did in the end, the three most commonly used sting bought on the ebay original, not too expensive to say that somewhere about $25 per sting. Here they have a difference with the Chinese at high temperatures huge.
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  • tough
  • 02 ноября 2016, 20:29
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And how did they choose (the originals)? Can I link?

I took 900 stings from Hakko's office in Russia, but you can't say they're perfect, but certainly better than the Chinese ones.
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You are welcome. Original from Japan :)
ebay.com/itm/371773918883
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Thanks for the review.
Excellent PS you got it.
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  • Connar
  • 04 ноября 2016, 08:29
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Tell the Chinese stinger can you get a beat? and that which is bundled to t12 usually goes, with an axe, acid a little bit of a sequin and all, does not stick the tin at all.
they write that they don't want to, or whatever, like something that's uninhabitable. Probably the acid eg ozacelled.
need a pancake for acid order the cheapest stinger
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  • wwest
  • 04 ноября 2016, 13:49
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DON'T have eternal stinging acid.
And if spoiled then restore the activator sting.
Buy or make a homemade activator, see my article above on the topic.
If you want to buy acid or make a pure copper sting, but it will quickly burn and dissolve.
Or as the author recommends nick23 above, cover the iron of the eternal sting of CINC.I don't know, I don't know, I'm quicker after the acid to restore a cheap Chinese sting, which is not sorry, activator.
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  • Zidann
  • 04 ноября 2016, 15:51
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Good afternoon. Would you tell the seller at an Ali/other Chinese store with less normal T12 stings?
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I bought my own here Shenzhen IMBM Technology Co.,Ltd
ru.aliexpress.com/store/group/T12-Soldering-Iron/918038_500908260.html
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  • 0_W_L
  • 03 February 2017, 06:27
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And I was somehow unlucky with this store ... out of 15 stings - 6 non-working (three pieces of CK on the body, three - a precipice).
And controller 2.0 with 1.3 display - the temperature jumps back and forth at 5-30 degrees. on any regret (of the remaining). Whether the operating room drives, or software ... what to do about it...
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It's not about the controller, disassemble your stingers and drink contacts, just look at the contracts in the handle.
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  • 0_W_L
  • 03 февраля 2017, 11:34
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looked, it doesn't help. )))
tell me, if you turn on the station without a handle - is the error burning constantly, or changing back and forth to the temperature?
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Yes I also have, this survey sting, ie burns the inscription ERROR occasionally flashes the temperature.
If you can't beat the temperature difference, output one, take the other sting... Chinese when creating the controller, used the original sting and based on their made profiles, I have a couple of good stings, so that's the difference is 1-5 grd. This is tailored to good calibration and don't forget when changing the sting to include the desired sting profile.
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  • 0_W_L
  • 03 февраля 2017, 14:28
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and I still have a suspicion that OU drives garbage, because I do not think that on 10 stings non-contact. the truth has sold only one thing (to clear conscience) - the result has not changed. How many videos watched - floats temperature plus or minus a couple of degrees, it is clear - cooled-heated. I'm up to 30 degrees. i.e. the spread of the jumps is 60 degrees. Yes, we are talking about the CURRENT temperature, the thermopapa does not confirm these jumps. and it's kind of fucked up with him, but it's unpleasant...

it's on a snousful regret
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It's such a "horse" on the hoof... something's not :(
Why aren't your sting calibrated?
Preferably!
all purchased stings calibrate, so you train your station your current stingers, after calibration you will have in the brackets point, opposite the profile, it is still desirable not to be lazy and choose the right profile of the sting when changing ... It's important.
Before calibrating, reset the settings for the purity of the experiment. Even if it doesn't help, check your BP... maybe there's something on nutrition.
P.S. Looked again video, I have not even calibrated so do not dance, then go exactly in the feeder you need to look, such as does not hold the load, check the capacitors.
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  • asup
  • 03 февраля 2017, 15:33
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Maybe it's a food supply. The temperature also jumps on the thermo-resistance... Try to soak up for a while from what transformer power supply.
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  • 0_W_L
  • 03 февраля 2017, 17:10
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calibrated behave exactly the same. only when calibrated at what point to press temperature confirmation - if the current indication as flea jumps? so the full reset was before the record, and not the first. As for the food - soaked from two akb (from ibb) - you will not believe, jumps ... (((
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  • Kvi
  • 03 февраля 2017, 18:24
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Try to wash the controller board from the flux. Look carefully at the subject of non-stained. asup. correctly writes - even the temperature of the thermoressor jumps. And it's connected to a completely different port. And he doesn't use the operating room. Or on the general diet of some kind of bark. Oscillorf would look. If he certainly has a :)
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Take a picture of the soldering stick and pay attention to the ration of rings and slats... Can a banal unspeed?
Do not believe, I write you the answer, soldering iron is standing on the side, I notice that the "activity" on the screen has increased ... I see, the numbers run, there is no stability, chaotically flashes the point (the indicator of the vibration sensor) and where the temperature indicator of the cold sleeping, instead of the thermometer there is an exclamation point ... I think we're coming here.... began to check, disassembled the soldering pen and saw a gap on the ring... I've lost it and taken it off with my hand. . . . so you need to check everything after the Chinese ;)

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I've been drinking the liner for a long time, even when I'm assembling. So Nimnul1979 deal says.
At the previous PS there was the same joint, the temperature was walking - the liner was drunk and everything went away.
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  • pc63
  • 05 февраля 2017, 21:40
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I got a pen with Tao, where the termistor the second end is planted not on the grounding of the sting, but on minus the T12 heater stinger. Can this inclusion confuses the temperature measurement of the termistor and the controller starts to "miracle" this way?

"Fathers" tell me, the station has not started yet, we need to cut off the second end of the thermostoror from the minus of the heater and drag on the ground sting? Or is it customized by the type of stinger in the controller itself?
And the question, in this scheme is applied non-polar termistor, no matter what end to include in the scheme?
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You have this photo

What's he talking about?
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  • pc63
  • 05 февраля 2017, 22:54
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Minus T12 and grounding are combined on the board.
That is almost no difference.
Thank you again!
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  • 0_W_L
  • 04 февраля 2017, 04:41
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I've got two handles, both of them, when I'm assembling. jumps with both. somewhere came across a scheme, it will be necessary to make a fatal oscillation oscil, but the board under a microscope to twist. I thought that the termistor was also connected to the OU, and KVI suggested another way.
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the diagram of the option from WOKA is at the end of the review (my link to JD)
there's a major difference in the wiring of food
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  • Kvi
  • 04 февраля 2017, 13:12
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Yes the board under the microscope to twist.
Why twist it? There are two dozen details (well, maybe a little more) - faster to drink all over again with a good flux. And launder.
The Chinese don't fall well. When I got this controller, I didn't even include it.
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if you look at the ration in detail, it seems that the schoolchildren in the lessons of labor soldered
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  • 0_W_L
  • 06 февраля 2017, 09:16
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Yes... I've been drinking, I've washed it, it hasn't helped. Tried to switch the cold spice to the CPU - also jumps. instead of 3.3V on U2 output - 3,192 - can so fail due to under-power? Or was the software crooked?
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Relaunch firmware is not a problem
Look here.
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  • 0_W_L
  • 06 февраля 2017, 10:26
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It seems that it's all about nutrition - soaked through SWD 3.3 volts - and nothing jumps! I threw away the D2 and cut down the 24 block along with the outer 3.3 - and still walks the temperature of the sting plus minus degrees-two, and the cold spie as dug. heaven and earth in general. so I'm going to look for a 2954 replacement, or an analogue of some kind.
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So got caught.
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  • Kvi
  • 06 февраля 2017, 20:38
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Or on the general diet of some kind of bark. An oscillograph would look.
:)
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  • 0_W_L
  • 06 февраля 2017, 11:31
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It turned out easier - the electrolyte on the U2 output - and everything works. )))

By the way, I noticed from the photos that in version 2.1S the capacitor C3 was replaced by an electrolyte.
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Author, why didn't you take the v2.1 version?
https://world.taobao.com/item/529249246589.htm
Do you even know anything about her?
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There is no global difference, the controller and firmware are almost the same, the development of the year 2014.
Translate its features from Tao and read in the review - the same thing.
It is possible to order the 1.3 screen immediately."
Buy, collect and write your review ;)
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Why didn't you get him? Price?
In principle, you were comfortable to buy from the seller where the panel was taken.

I still have a four-pin pad on the board confused, I do not understand why. Maybe two on a battery, and the other two where? (these are thoughts out loud, but if you know the answer, share it).
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  • qwerty2
  • 05 ноября 2016, 01:33
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If you're pro SWD, it's a firmware port/core cortex debaig.
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No, not about SWD. The pelvis connector is white at 4 pina. Although it may have been shifted there firmware.
Here's a link to controller v2.1s
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  • qwerty2
  • 05 ноября 2016, 17:01
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I see two white snr, 4 pins and five. That's at 4 pina and there's AWD, it's even signed.
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And I realized so that zGENS (5pin on the right) is on SWD, similar to on ver.2.0.
And why the second (4pin top) "SWD" is signed, I do not understand.
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Have you read the review?
(5pin right) - soldering iron
1 - on the board contact S, blue wire, position sensor (SW200 or mercurial)
2 - on the board contact N, white wire, termistor NTC
3 - on the board contact E, green wire, grounding of the sting and common for the thermostistor and position sensor
4 - on the board contact G, black wire, T12 -
5 - on the board contact, red wire, T12

and SWD for re-stitching
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I thought about the brand connector they also start with SWD.

SWD - Serial Wire Debug

Yandex :) to blame
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I understand correctly that the vibration sensor (tilt) SW200 is neatly possible to put only in the handle 907 936 with a liner?

In the handles FM2028 and FX9501 this moment is not solved in a normal way? In the pictures saw that the tail is splayed, but it is not clear where it is placed there.
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  • wwest
  • 05 ноября 2016, 01:19
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In 9501 decided elementary.There were photos in the topics, the space is full even for 2 such.
The sensor to take with coaxial findings opposite.
I did so: One output soldering to the contact of the sting holder is a generic (-) wire powering the sting (hard-mounting sensor and saving 1 wire), to the second output of the wire from the handle to the controller's input (SW).
The wire itself is fixed in the handle by the plastic screw M4 (cut off a piece from the plastic threaded rack and the grinding slot under the screw) the screw presses the wire through a rubber protective bend at the exit of the hose.
It is also useful to fix the screw (can be metal) and the pin holder of the stinger for it will elite in the body.

SW200 is only a heat drain!!! both outputs, in the form of a clamp or tweezer, as the half of the cup (cover) is plastic and easily melted.
If the handle is even smaller, such as homemade sharpened turners, then take a micro sensor-mercury.
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Thank you for the likbez. Can you mercurial mark?
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  • wwest
  • 05 ноября 2016, 17:20
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  • wwest
  • 05 ноября 2016, 19:07
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Here is a photo from a nearby theme as a mercury sensor fell in.
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Just like that


He won't climb out the back
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  • nick23
  • 05 ноября 2016, 07:42
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Although at the moment I do not see the need to buy the original stings (without comparative tests), although the pictures above with copper are impressive - it would be nice to collect statistics on the exact mass of Chinese and Japanese stings T12 different types. If there are significant differences - it will be possible to distinguish the original (boo with taobao) from Chinese stings. I can weigh the Chinese (something has accumulated a lot of them and still go). Send Japanese - also weigh (joke).
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  • wwest
  • 05 ноября 2016, 18:50
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(it would be nice to collect statistics on the exact mass of Chinese and Japanese stings T12 different types)
Dreams, dreams... There is no such thing in the domestic Internet and there will be no such thing.
Even the owners of Japanese sting 900 units.
In the western internet there were articles with photos how to distinguish fake T-12 from the original.

Left a fake Chinese:
Here are the originals:
Here are some more originals:
It is even easier on the linearity of thermopara.Chinese terribly non-linear ("alloy" of thermal steam metals is not normalized).
Even the original thermopara has a decent non-linearity:

But the point in this is NO! Unless you're taking BU from the factory.
Because fakes and clones differ at first sight on PRICE.Ha-ha-ha... Anything that is cheaper than 20-30 dollars...
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  • bazilio
  • 11 января 2017, 22:31
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Where do they buy the original stings? At least look at the price...

Is there a difference between 180p and 400-500 ruble stings?
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  • krserv
  • June 19, 2018, 10:56 p.m.
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No one bought here? Really original?

ebay.com/itm/232793003897
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  • nso77
  • 05 ноября 2016, 18:27
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It's just a SYS! 8-)
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  • wwest
  • 05 ноября 2016, 19:02
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By the way, once bought T-12 Chinese heads their desirable to disassemble and drink contacts.
Because there's the famous "electro-mountain electric contact" of the type of "cri."

Which is just electrical contact does NOT guarantee.

Otherwise, the temperature readings will jump or it will be like here:
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  • dSave
  • 05 января 2017, 12:59
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Can I go into more detail? How to disassemble them and what to get to know? I have on one sting backlash appeared between the body of the sting and the plastic (which is melted in your picture left)
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  • olegsem
  • 05 ноября 2016, 19:06
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Bought the pen of the soldering iron FX-9501 here aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-HAKKO-T12-KX9501-Handle-DIY/32499488869.html
The SW-200D sensor was installed on the mount (pictured highlighted by red dots)
Sensors bought here aliexpress.com/item/10PC-Lot-SW-200D-SW200D-Ball-Switch-SW-200D-Tilt-Angle-Sensor-Switch-Angle-Switch-YXSMDZ442/32552161344.html
The "tail" of the handle is fixed to the glue "Moment Gel" (pictured highlighted in red), now does not falls off and therefore there is no possibility to take photos of internalities
Waiting for the arrival of STM32 Edition OLED T12 Intelligent Electric Temperature Welding Units T12 Automatic Wake-Sleep Shock 110-240v 72W
aliexpress.com/item/STM32-Edition-OLED-T12-Intelligent-Electric-Iron-Temperature-Welding-Units-T12-Automatic-Wake-Sleep-Shock-110/32737787503.html
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Cheers! There are more of us :)
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Thank you for your review
He did not let me sleep peacefully, demanded to find options for buying on Tao.
As a result - a review.
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Our website is read and by sellers in China
Here's in this store
there are already "modernized" controllers with a center-shifted display, as I did in the review.
Photos from reviews in the store

The truth is the price of the controller itself is not humane at all

If the sale really will be 12 with a trifle, then those who want to buy obviously add.
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Humanity will appear after 11.11. We've already discussed it.
Price tags are jacked up because of 11.11
The seller will now be able to reset 30% on personal appeal.

At my request, the al case and the controller v.2.1swere put up, following your link to TaoBao, but agreed that we will discuss the price after 11.11, as now the price is unreal.
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Price tags are jacked up because of 11.11
yes it's understandable ;)
But if there really appear at a reasonable price controllers with Tao, it will be great.
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At my request, the controller v.2.1s was put up
Let me ask you a question... What's the interest of 2.1? new PP and display with I2C tire?
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I tried to find out why sancho1971 did not take it, but received no answer.
What is the difference I do not know, if I do not find out, I will take v2.0, because it is already a proven solution.

It seems to have displays at 1.3" at once.
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Ordered by link from the review Allary1980
It was later, when ordered, found more options and began to understand their differences.
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Also interesting are the differences between controllers v2.0 and v2.1s, if anyone knows to share knowledge? The hull of AI is just gorgeous, on Ali no one else has found such.
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Imho... difference only in the circuit board, judging by the pictures... added holes for fastening boards on the racks, removed the power connector, made under the ration ... also uses a display with an I2C tire (although I think that the firmware knows how to work with two tires)... So you can choose both boards, controller and firmware the same, just every Chinese produces PP for himself ;)
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  • Kirillm
  • 07 ноября 2016, 11:09
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It's a handle so much will be its price visible on the main 14.18
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hmm, compact but 5 times more expensive than real money
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strangely that the author did not take pentium2 for his soldering station
Well, you erased your stump 2 comment.

but 5 times more expensive than real money
He said he threw it in the water.
Arguments, prices, links ???
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hmm, compact but 5 times more expensive than real money
It's easier for you to use EPSN... this "fenshuy" soldering iron for those who defeated the amphibious ;)
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Take stm8s003f3p6 for 15p.
scoreboard from nokia1202 to 80r.
lm358 to 10r.
encoder for 70p.
And forward
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Take stm8s003f3p6 for 15p.
scoreboard from nokia1202 to 80r.
lm358 to 10r.
encoder for 70p.
And forward
link by the names of the chips to Ali
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And what's next?
Is there a ready-made solution? Has someone already written the firmware, rolled and laid out?
If you are so smart, so share with the society, write a review, and we honor, appreciate ...
stm8s003f3p6 for 15p.
scoreboard from nokia1202 to 80r.
lm358 to 10r.
encoder for 70p.
It's not the whole milling station, at least you need a BP and a hull.
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It's certainly not the bags to pile, but that would do something yourself, so a bunch of excuses.

P.S. And the same esseries all over the forum
I don't care about it or not.
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Well, a set of details to write anyone can but write the code under the controller ... why not everyone, even the well-known design of stations from the site of the radiocot did not come close to the level of this controller and its capabilities ;)
Who can and wants to:thly
scoreboard from nokia1202 to 80r.
Lcd screen nokia 1202... small, faded with bad viewing angles, lots of fakes... There is no OLED even with a small one.
LM358... controversial operas, terms of accuracy ;) But everyone's favorite ;)
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  • qwerty2
  • 09 ноября 2016, 02:19
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stm8s003f3p6 is too shallow and weak, then it is better to take advantage of the ready-made solution on atmega8.
lm358 is not a good option!!! His IOV will lead to errors. If you are satisfied with swimming temperatures up to a couple of tens of degrees, take EPSN with the regulator, there will be no difference.
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A lot of work has been done! to order something on taobao and translate from Chinese to English and then to Russian that still quest) On the board, the connector from the soldering iron on the stump, too frail, will not miss these contacts 3 A, will bask. it is better to snip directly at the fee.
On Ali now appeared another controller on stm32
aliexpress.com/item/The-latest-Version-of-OLED-Soldering-Station-Control-Panel-STM32-edition-OLED-Screen-Control-Panel-Electric/32706564155.html
Judging by the coil on the board, with a normal lowering shim 24-5in Anyone can say what about him? Does he have a three-point calibration?
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I saw this fee on both Ali and Tao. I can't say anything, I have to try. Maybe someone will have a desire to buy and test, and for one review to write ;)))
order something on taobao and translate from Chinese to English and then still in Russian that's still a quest
And what prevents you from immediately translating from Chinese to Russian???
the plug from the soldering iron, too frail, will not miss these contacts 3 A
Isn't 24B 3A constantly served on soldering iron???
The connector does a great job.
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Okay, the price turns out to be like stc on oled
Google is still translating into English first, intermediate language
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stc on oled
Slag...
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Slag...
so and in thought, take your or that link
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  • RAVUA
  • 16 февраля 2017, 22:28
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stc on oled
Why slag?
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because the controller on the STC, that with the LED (people's controller), that with OLED (the option proposed by looser001 at the beginning of the discussion), does not have the functionality that has the controller on STM32
and the money for the variant stc q oled Chinese are no less than STM32 and OLED
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  • qwerty2
  • 09 ноября 2016, 16:52
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Very similar, isn't it? The cortex-m0 core, unlike Cortex-m3 in the overlooked. There is no calibration on three points.
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Plus, the temperature sensor to compensate for the cold solder is on the controller's board and measures the temperature on the Mars, and should be as close as possible to the soldering sting.
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should be as close as possible to the soldering complain
Why and why?
temperature sensor to compensate for cold soldy
Chevo, can you find out more?
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Chevo, can you find out more?
How does the thermopara work?
If YES, such questions should not arise...
If NO, first pull up the theory, Google or refer to VICKY. The questions will fall away themselves.
Good luck;-)

PS do not consider for rudeness, but to deal with the likbez is already in order tired ...
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i.e. stm32 on the Cortex-m0 kernel roughly corresponds to the stc percentage in these controllers?
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Roughly speaking yes, the firmware is trimmed in functionality ;)
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  • qwerty2
  • 10 ноября 2016, 13:21
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Cortex-m0 is a stripped-down version of Cortex-m3, but still 32bit, DMA and other honey. Comparing it to an 8bit STC on the 8051 core is simply not correct.
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Is it interesting to read through SWD? Does he have a lock of bits?
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  • qwerty2
  • 10 ноября 2016, 15:44
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As such, there are no lock bits, the protection is organized in a different way and it is much more reliable than that of AVR. You can try to read, spoil the flash by reading is not possible. But if reading is forbidden, do not try to resolve it - the flush will be erased immediately. But you will have an incentive to write your firmware :).
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Well, as if ST-LINK/V2 ISOL I have ;) Try... but I don't think they're stupid... that would leave without protection))))
P.S. Writing... Yes, yes... Everything you need to be done for a soldering station is done here... the only one is a whale. Sting... which shit is rare in thermal conductivity... But here how lucky ... can and normal get caught.
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  • bazilio
  • 11 января 2017, 05:51
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Welcome, what do you say about this controller? I was able to see the STM32F103CBT6 in the photo, but does this stone guarantee that the firmware there will be at least as good as in this review!?

It is not clear where there is a memory chip, a temperature sensor on the board or in the handle and the watch quartz is not visible ... Although the time of the wro de is on display...

It is worth more than anything more expensive than all that is in the reviews and on the ali in lots...

aliexpress.com/store/product/T12-OLED-Display-DIY-Kits-T12-Electronic-Soldering-Iron-TipsTemperature-Controller-Wake-Sleep-Shock-110-240v/1486111_32786936747.html



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Very similar to this
https://world.taobao.com/item/534001432051.htm
there's version 1.0, and you already have 1.3.
WOKA. My functionality is the same. Slightly different diluted power chains, the battery is already on the board. There's a quartz on the board, it tacts the work of STM-ki. Located near the boozer, designated Y1
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This is the Woka board, according to the idea of all the same, only modified software and other printed board with other power (used pulsed DC-DC at 3.3V), quartz is also on the board, only in a glass case (small rectangle on the board)
Sy Late, Sasha used to write ;)
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  • bazilio
  • 11 января 2017, 14:24
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Here's eye-catching, and I didn't see the version on the board...

But here I saw that the connector under the soldering iron with 6 contacts, marked T and the track on it goes from the soldering iron through the resistor, though only from the 1st side can be seen.

Where to connect it if the finger has 5 contacts in the nest...

STM32F103CBT6 is the most powerful stone in the world.?

Sorri I learned from these controllers when I began to choose PS and when there were 5-6 different controllers there was a question - and what exactly the difference ...

And thanks to the posts above, it became clear what STC/
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I'll clarify a little, maybe this controller is not quite the same and the same as in the article, because if you read the description ... this controller can work with different soldering irons with both the T12 and the 900 series soldering iron, and therefore, the software in this controller is different from the one overlooked... and 100% say they're not like that. That's why he's got a 1 pin more pad:
Gnd - minus
24 - food

"Z" - plus the sting T12
G - minus T12
E - grounding of the stinger and common for the thermostor and position sensor
N - NTC termistor
S - position sensor
T is a 900 series thermopar, using T12... Don't use it.
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  • bazilio
  • 22 января 2017, 01:12
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That's what I got to - stupidly looking through one after another lot in the hope of finding a detailed description of the controller above https://world.taobao.com/item/543069864966.htm

as far as I've figured out here supported 3 type of sting T12、JBC、936

Progress in the Chinese does not stand still ...
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That's right, the T12 cartridge soldering iron, the same as JBC, the difference is only in power 70W (T12) and 150W (JBC)... but if you look at the market of soldering, not counting induction, 900 series are replaced by cartridges (sensor-stinger), they have good efficiency
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STM32F103CBT6 is the most powerful stone in the world.?
It's not the most powerful, there's more...
Read here:
www.compel.ru/lib/ne/2011/2/3-stm32-epoha-32-bitnyih-mikrokontrollerov-nastupila
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  • bazilio
  • 11 января 2017, 20:35
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I tried to crack with the seller, he does not know anything, I ask Yusver manual - he is in the lot all on the board, I ask about the calibration, the version of the firmware, how to support the update - I will learn from the engineer ... :)

Well, let's see what the answer is...
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What the hell are they going to say... Tried... swam ;) you have to study the whale. Forums
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as they answer, write here...
Although I'm very much doubted about it.
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  • bazilio
  • 21 января 2017, 03:27
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He didn't write anything, I asked for the soap to be reset.

And probably won't answer the same if you run over him - I've read reviews on other lots - apologises for not explaining anything and can't help :)

There is a man who bought a similar one on TAO, last donkey, but he does not answer...

mysku.ru/blog/taobao/42202.html#comment1626282

mysku.ru/blog/taobao/42202.html#comment1660517
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  • asup
  • 08 февраля 2017, 05:16
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Bazilio, do not prompt this controller from WOKA there is a base of sting in memory?
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  • bazilio
  • 09 февраля 2017, 17:51
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I do not know 100% I have not bought it yet, but judging by the comments about the memory chip and Chinese videos it is the same or almost the same, perhaps the difference in a couple of menu items - on the video they are in Chinese ...
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firmware is different
This controller supports T12, 939 and JBC
And is there a base of sting - TH
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  • bazilio
  • 19 февраля 2017, 21:31
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the controller is ordered, I will try to cut the review, if no one else will do the wrong. there before I had two orders long done...
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even if someone does a review earlier, it is not a fact that it will be useful and interesting.
I'm not a pioneer in controllers on STM32, before I've had reviews ;)))
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  • bazilio
  • 24 февраля 2017, 17:17
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I want to warn the community this saleswoman a week after the order tries to breed me on a cheaper model - referring to the fact that there is no warehouse, but there is exactly the same on another textolite ... despite the fact that she put the 2nd lot with the controller v1.3 and added to it a plug for the soldering ...

and yet she had sets with large hulls woka price tag true horse ...

aliexpress.com/store/product/Soldering-Station-Temperature-Controller-T12-OLED-Display-DIY-Sets-T12-Electronic-Soldering-Iron-Tips-110-240v/1486111_32792237590.html









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Looks like a WOKA fee, but no battery
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  • bazilio
  • 24 февраля 2017, 17:39
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no quartz yet, 2 conders, stone 32f100c8t68

v1.2 controller version

Maybe the firmware is different...
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  • bazilio
  • 24 февраля 2017, 17:37
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By the way, a video of the combined station and the scheme of connecting the entire aliexpress.com/store/product/T12-Soldering-Station-Hot-Air-Gun-2-in-1-Tools-DIY-Electric-Power-STM32-Controller-Combo/1486111_32793896639.html appeared



I noticed - there are 2 connectors to connect the motors - pumps and something else ...

cloud.video.taobao.com/play/u/2246999199/p/1/e/1/t/10301/51312117.swf

vodcdn.video.taobao.com/player/ugc/tb_ugc_bytes_core_player_loader.swf?version=1.0.20170206&show_share_button=false&tplanguage=english&vid=51312117&uid=2246999199&p=1&t=10301&rid=&random=6666

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Saw the link here a couple of days ago.
Price of the Trindets
$200 for a station with a soldering iron , $80 for a hairdryer pen
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  • bazilio
  • 24 февраля 2017, 18:01
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What kind of suction is that? some kind of hakko clone or branded?
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HAKKO solder suction,

The price is certainly not a fountain.
It is possible to apply an alternative option
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  • bazilio
  • 25 февраля 2017, 04:35
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how many wonderful discoveries we have...

v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTI1NzI5NzgyNA==.html?spm=a2h0j.8191423.module_basic_relation.5~5!2~5~5!22~5~5~A&from=y1.2-1-176.3.20-1.1-1-1-19-0
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  • bazilio
  • 18 марта 2017, 18:17
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Well, in general there that goes and as that crooked on the track ... all these week-long dances with the tambourine of the saleswoman... The only thing that was encouraging - pictures of the waiting buyer, I have not yet seen - thought that this is some kind of Chinese divorce ...



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  • asup
  • 18 марта 2017, 18:27
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What did they do with the package that the capacitor tore off?
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  • bazilio
  • 18 марта 2017, 19:04
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The buyer wrote that unspeed, well, I in my life saw top video cards with unsinkable conders - take out of the box and a couple crumbled :)
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While you wait for your controller I already second 2.1S with Tao bring.
First mysku.ru/blog/taobao/45851.html#comment1955124 Kit
Everything is fair and guaranteed there...
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  • bazilio
  • 18 марта 2017, 19:15
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Well, not so long 19 days on the road, she is already in her grandson, if it were not for a week delay of the seller, it would have been taken away ...

I'm old for tao and with ali help me, so so far without options ...
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  • bazilio
  • 28 марта 2017, 05:59
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Well, in general, everything somehow failed ... Today I tried it in work and it turned out that I can't calibrate the sting...

According to your description - I enter the calibration - the start - the sting begins to roam up to 450, I enter the measured deposit - the iron on the encoder and the bam

ERROR - what, where the thz does not work... Sit guess, firmware, controller, memory chip or something...

Who can tell you what by this mistake?

and if the sting K warms somewhere up to 450 on self-control measurements when calibrated,

The D24 comes to 450 and jumps 450 to 999...

but with all the stings still in error fall out at the confirmation ...

Pichal ... and so of course the stings make a good impression in the work, despite the nuances - branded probably generally chic.
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Please help with this scheme. The picture is not clear, I understand not everything. Received recently the fee of this station, waited more than two months
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Do you have a fee from woka!? At least a picture with details hitched his controller - there are many versions of them ...

Everyone's menus are very similar.

the right button on the picture - open in the new window and many pictures will be on the whole screen ...

there is no question in the post - what to help?
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He needs a combo version of the hairdryer
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Yes, that's right.
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  • bazilio
  • 28 марта 2017, 05:46
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asup

Unfortunately, the base of the sting seems to be gone... or I didn't understand something - the tip menu has a choice of only the type of T12 cardry- JBC- 936

I'll put the menu later on.
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  • asup
  • 28 марта 2017, 06:13
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Make a video (indications on the display in working mode and calibration process) can win together...
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  • bazilio
  • 28 марта 2017, 21:29
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I'm sorry, the focus didn't work out... There is no manual mode, the machine does this.



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  • asup
  • 29 марта 2017, 12:55
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Try if there is a full reset on the menu... Well and the calibration menu try to click on Init...
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  • bazilio
  • 29 марта 2017, 17:01
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I immediately tried to reset - it does not give an effect, except that all the settings in default are installed ...

tried to "reset" the battery - the watch dropped - the calibration did not affect.

When you click on Init adj - it just falls out the work window - the video is there.

Yesterday I was sitting under a magnifying glass looking at snot or cold ration - everything seems to be fine, the chip soldered neatly.

and it seems that the chip fell on the machine, and everything else in manual ...

wires, connections - rang, connectors "stitched, measured to resist - no crime.

Resistance measured straight from the ration of the connector on the board to the cartridge to make all the contacts in the measurement entered ...

is there an oscillograph c1-94, can you on some signals on the processor to understand the malfunction?

I understood so in the calibration after putting the 450g point on the click it records somewhere value and moves on to the next point !?

stlink is not yet available and the people here in the district also have no :(

yesaa - from the flux immediately washed.
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  • asup
  • 29 марта 2017, 18:37
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Yes, three-point calibration. I've got 425g, like 320 and about 215, tomorrow I'll tell you exactly the temperature. After the passage of all three measurements - goes to the main menu.
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  • wwest
  • 11 ноября 2016, 15:59
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Calibrating on 3 points is just wonderful.
I still love the way you put your time out to sleep.
But the review does not reflected the graph and linearity of temperatures after calibrating a particular sting.

I would also like to know about the thermosensor (type, parameters, than replace) that is put to compensate for the thermosing in the handle. But the NTS doesn't look like anything.
Because some sell as a bare board without a sensor-as you want and connect.
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But the review does not reflected the graph and linearity of temperatures after calibrating a particular sting.
As a graph to build I do not know, but the confident keeping of the temperature on the regret is a fact, after calibration appears a point in the profile of the sting... I think so after calibrating the controller adjusts the PID ratios to the specific profile of your chosen sting.
I would also like to know about the thermosensor (type, parameters, than replace) that is put to compensate for the thermosing in the handle. But the NTS doesn't look like anything.

I have in the handle is ntC form of a black ball in diameter of 1.5-2 mm, as is in the form of a diode ... 4-5K (met 10K)... is located near the conclusions of "z" and "-"
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Here's to those who doubt the power of bpd :)
24In 10A) set this ;)
https://world.taobao.com/item/541367351944.htm
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  • wwest
  • 14 ноября 2016, 13:14
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Confident keeping of the temperature on the regret provides and the people's station with the accuracy of 2g.PID also works out at full.
The thermopa in the pity is NOT.
And you set it up at least on 4 points, between points it will in theory remain nonlineous.
It is necessary to remove at least 1-2 points of temperature between the calibration points of the station.
It is not necessary to build a graph, it is enough to bring the measurements in a column and it will be all clear.

Give intermediate measurements of the most popular temperatures in the range of 270-330 grams, as far as they correspond to reality (which is on the scoreboard and in real).
For example, 260,270,280,290,300,310,320,330g.
Eight points.
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Confident keeping of temperature on the regret provides and the people's station with accuracy of 2g.PID also works out to the full.
Especially on the stand ;) When the ration "flies" as much as 20grd down ;) Well, it is of course on default, maybe it is better if the user "was hard" and brought pida ... Or better yet... jumps at ration (in YouTube look)... I'm talking about the people's "standard" station you're talking about.
PID will not restore you curves on an unknown thermopapa on any station, the processor only extrapolates straight lines in the graph (the more points - the more more precisely).

What's going on? And thermoprophiles do not know what they are for, on the radio station there is a station from the author of the Victor_P he also made a thermoprophili ... because the stings are different and their linearity (TP is different)... each profile has a three-point calibration, which minimizes the non-linearity of different types of stings... what a folk station can't do!
This station has all kinds of khaka stings, there are custom profiles, there is compensation for cold sleeping with the choice of sensor location (the pen of the soldering iron or case (as in the folk)... but it's right as close to a cold spa(sting contacts)
Give intermediate measurements of the most popular temperatures in the range of 270-330 grams, as far as they correspond to reality (which is on the scoreboard and in real).
For example, 260,270,280,290,300,310,320,330g.
Eight points.
Yes, as if not a problem, but here I have a problem with time, and even would be a normal meter with communication through the computer ... In general, there would be class... I'll try to find it.
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  • wwest
  • 14 ноября 2016, 17:41
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1.failure of 20 degrees of the T12 sting depends only on the heat of the stinger itself. And you go to the station.
The principle of the stations is ABSOLUTELY the same, as well as their power.
Different only software.
2.
You're confusing something. A pie with a curve of non-linearity of a FREE Chinese sting from an unknown alloy.
What does the mythical ALL Hakko stings have to do with it? If the Chinese are different from them.
PID is also at the people's station and it is not divided and regulated anywhere, but only under one type of sting and alloy thermopapa.
Some wonderful well-said tales tell how the magical stations of amateur developers on 3 points restore the Chinese sting to the Japanese branded Hakko, but the testing do not want to not give away a military secret. Why didn't we buy the station from the author of the Victor_P he also made a thermoprophile...? :)))

And I didn't understand how they build a curve of 3 points.
It's going to be a triangle.
3.
What is the problem with time if initially in 2 reviews is not what is really necessary in the first place, that is, testing the accuracy of temperature retention within the working temperature of rations from 270 to 330g.Although idly.
Well, I hope in the 3rd review they will appear at the end.
Remove the Hakko-100 thermometer
7 consecutive temperatures in idle a lot of time is not necessary, minutes in 7 you can meet.
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Probably you are the owner of "people"))) so here I folk once did not buy and do not buy, as it is a craft on which the Chinese tried to build something (read the whale forums)... then the source was sold and the "people's" favorite station ;) Settings of the PIDA (odds) left only to somehow adjust the failed station, while added the setting OF AREF to somehow somehow correct the shoals))) Such a question: Have you built a station at least once? read how they work, how the algorithm works to maintain temperature, what they are... or you'll read the menu of the words PID... And you don't know the principles... I can't even ask you about normal ideas in stations... Why don't you win me over in this regard ;)
You're confusing something.

Don't? I wrote somewhere that PID and profile are the same thing?
In each profile,laid the ratios of the PID regulator, which is adjusted by the TYPE of sting,in simple words, the controller puts specific settings under the type of sting ... and YOU themselves tell him what type of it to rebuild them (pid settings)... for example, for the sting "needle" some and for the sting "axe" others ... Got it? People don't have that! And it uses one setting to all the sting! but it won't be true... for different masses sting, etc.
A pie with a curve of non-linearity of a FREE Chinese sting from an unknown alloy.
Believe me, on the head made controller can work with non-linear stings, and even more so with the original, I say this because tried this controller with GOOT RX-80HRT ... little has modified his ;) and I was VERY surprised how the ORIGINAL works ;)
Why didn't we buy the station from the author of the Victor_P he also made a thermoprophile...? :)))

Here's a look at the www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnAt5UJGx-E process of setting up the ;)
How do you feel about that? didn't expect, I did almost everything the station did from the radio ;)
Really cool everything, but not to the end ... each author rested on his own stone.
And I didn't understand how they build a curve of 3 points.
It's going to be a triangle.
Yes... you still need to read and read... Going to the first solder you? And in general, there is at least something that you can argue to me ... beyond your higher utterance?
What is the problem with time if initially in 2 reviews is not what is really necessary in the first place, that is, testing the accuracy of temperature retention within the working temperature of rations from 270 to 330g.Although idly.
Well, I hope in the 3rd review they will appear at the end.
Remove the Hakko-100 thermometer

Tell me how to measure the temperature on the tip of the sting? Purely interesting))) to poke TP from the device into the tip of the sting?))))
And also show you parrots measured by the Chinese clone Hakko-100? Nonsense... Read how to properly measure... And then you're smart. Unless of course you want the truth, not the parrots.
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  • wwest
  • 16 ноября 2016, 15:38
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"And show you parrots measured by the Chinese clone Hakko-100? Nonsense... Read how to properly measure... and then you're smart."

How much concenation, has and pride!
And 0 information.
Yes, I really want to read how to measure.
Do you have a device more accurate than 100 clone of Hakko?
What confuses you that so much contempt, money is burning?
Do you need to be more precise than 3 degrees . And... You're a well-known station designer, yes you have accuracy on the regret of 1 degree,0.01 no?..
I can "show" how, but not on YouTube and in writing.
Paaya is more than 30 years old, started as a radio artist in 81g, the branded Soviet measure of the temperature of the soldering iron I use since 94 (Hacco-100 clone so much better and twice in 2 more precisely). It's interesting to read, maybe I'll learn something new.

And how does PID for one stinger (in the people's station) differ from PID for several memory cells for many stings in this station? Well, apart from convenience, it's a no-one.

Or maybe you want to say that ETA program smears PID coef SAM by 3 points automatically? But you didn't say that.
So still points are not enough for accuracy.
You can't build an exact curve at 3 points, or a triangle or a made-up curve.
And most importantly, the main thing is that ALL unsubstantiated because THERE are NO measurements!:))) That is, one word-word-words...

Think of something more convincing, like the fact that there's a FREE PID.
And I didn't need a likbez, I'd collect stations and read and teach theory.
No matter how much you collect... It's still cheaper to buy at ALI.
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Do you have a device more accurate than 100 clone of Hakko?
What confuses you that so much contempt, money is burning?
It's like a pissing will be measured)))),", "here I have a clone that is much better measuring than scoop)""s funny ... But I can upset you... have access to the GootTM-200 I consider it an exemplary device for calibration of soldering equipment, then I have Brymen 869,which paired with the correct thermopapa will give you an accuracy of 0.3%(like my home version)... but what the hell am I going to prove to you, a man with 30 years of radio editing experience... You're camping stuck in those days... times read my comments through the lines. YOU compare controllers of different levels... trying to prove something to someone. Make it easier, order this controller and do the 3rd review... More detailed and detailed... rather than panic to prove and compare them.
Or maybe you want to say that ETA program smears PID coef SAM by 3 points automatically? But you didn't say that.
Come on... Read it again... even on the radio station Victor, already made on the profiles of sting, only he made a manual PI regulator in the profiles of ;) and the station can work with all types of solders... Can you imagine not missing it? And then there is little "people's controller" eyes to you and says "do not look at other stations, I'm the lucker of all ;)"
And don't need a likbez, I've been gathering stations and reading and teaching
Theory.
I went to the wrong time ;)
No matter how much you collect... It's still cheaper to buy at ALI.
It is not true, it is one thing to collect and not reach the final (different reasons)... it's another thing to beat the finals (to make it even better).
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  • Kvi
  • 11 ноября 2016, 19:15
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Have you ever seen the NTC in the glass? Well, at least: www.orion43.ru/price/47.htm
By the way - 1n4148 works perfectly as a thermosensor. I had an Orion flight comp in the car. The thermosensor was two 1N4148, enabled sequentially.
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  • wwest
  • 14 ноября 2016, 13:01
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No glass.
Diodes as a thermoressor?
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Well, in this case, nothing new
With the constant value of the current flowing in a straight direction, such as the diode transition, the voltage at the transition changes almost linearly with the change in temperature.
Taken from here: electricalschool.info/main/sovety/534-kak-ispolzovat-diody-i-tranzistory-dlja.html
You can still ask Google
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In the photo, the liner for the 900 series handle shows the sensor itself.
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  • wwest
  • 14 ноября 2016, 13:19
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The sensor is then visible, the type of sensor is not visible, its parameters.
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  • wwest
  • 14 ноября 2016, 17:51
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Are you seriously putting me on the parameters of a contre termistor in a particular station? Or so troll?
I can find the date myself.
Parmeters for a particular station is the type and resistance and not the PDF on the ALL series.

Resistance 4-5K (met 10K)-station that does not care for resistance, it is exposed in the settings?
So 4k or 10k?
If I put you in the air conditioner instead of a 10k termistor, you'll cover with ice.
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Resistance 4-5K (met 10K)-station that does not care for resistance, it is exposed in the settings?
So 4k or 10k?
What station, what is the termistor for? This cold-sleeping compensator at this controller in the handle can stand a termistor from 4-10K... specifically in my pen is 5K measures exactly ... but met different denominations (read whale forums), plus there is a calibration of room temperature ;)
And in general, tie up with the trolling and go fishing ... believe me, you're going to ;)
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  • wwest
  • 16 ноября 2016, 15:18
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And what is already visible resistance on the sensor itself in the photo handle?
And minusers connoisseurs of match and technique?
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Honey man, for you what to shit in the comments, what to shit in the corners (under the fence) - probably the same.
P.S. Trolling is not going, I'm not going to answer stupid comments.
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  • wwest
  • 16 ноября 2016, 15:57
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Well, you're stupid in your third review of the U.S., test your station at temperatures.
To not look so stupid.
For anyone else that 4 kilooma, that 10 kilos at 20C is the same for the thermoressor and the station.
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Del
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For anyone else that 4 kilooma, that 10 kilos at 20C is the same for the thermoressor and the station.
You will explain to the Chinese (what is the NTC), as well as hint that the mole "my super station" which I bought, measures the cold spice in the "op" placing the NTC inside the case, not even on the connector ;) and at the same time measures the temperature of the BP standing next to it.
I advise YOU to have my polemics and drooling... shove in the branch of the "people's controller" ... but not this controller.
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Well, you minus put WHERE parameters where the resistance to the station is 5k or 10k, or maybe 4k?
Haven't you tried to guess in the coffee grounds?
Well, first of all... We haven't switched to you yet! this time, I minus did not put it two, about the resistance, read the comments above!
Listen to the clever man, I read your conclusions in the branch of the people's controller, go and smoke your blunt controller, your brain will be enough for him... No more!
EPSN -60-220 IN YOUR HANDS NO MORE!!!
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It's just that this "wwest" after dinner talk not skem (the therapist only in the morning accepts ) here he is nonsense and writes. Still, the details are described - all the answers are adequate - but there was one one that is not satisfied with everything
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In general, people as strange as me and even though the controller 2.1s and 1.3" OLED :)

Consulted with the author - he helped to decide - for which he is very grateful.

My option:
Hull - $12
BP q 4.32 $
controller - $16
connector - $0.39
Pen : $0.96
liner q $1.09
Wire x2 q $1.1

TOTAL: 12 q 4.32 q 16 q 0.39 q 0.96 q 1.09 q 1.1 q 35.86 $ excluding shipping in China

The option offered to me by the author - all from the same store, so the delivery to China will be less
Hull : $12.8
pen and connector - ready-made kit - $4.07
БП = 3.78$
controller - $16

TOTAL: $12.8, $4.07, $3.78, $16, $36.65 excluding shipping to China
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  • manatu
  • 22 ноября 2016, 01:07
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Thanks for the options for the components for the soldering station on stm32 for T12
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Order, collect, use ;-)))
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  • mimsx
  • December 12, 2016 at 4:44 PM
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Ordered a solder with the guys completely satisfied with it and the work before that was the controller of the people and in the work they differ not wasted money.
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  • pc63
  • December 13, 2016 at 7:55 PM
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And the links?
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:-)
I ordered it (I had 4 sets in the order)
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They've made me angry. Today, too, ordered a full set ...
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  • pc63
  • December 14, 2016 at 12:15 PM
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Please, links to the studio!
Some of them don't work anymore, and it's not easy to understand Chinese...
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And what links don't work for you?
Specify...
Dealing with Tao is not complicated
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  • pc63
  • 14 декабря 2016, 19:32
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BP ran out yesterday, and now there is!))
The case is over, there is another, like without pens and a front plate.
About the address of the most ad... I enter from 2 tabs one with translation, stealing in Chinese, in the throld I enter everything, and this nit asks me to specify the address on the map where only hieroglyphics, here at least hang ...
The address of the warehouse is entered with the meest.cn "WHERE IS YOUR WORLD?"even figured out what it is but on the crta Google can not find. to properly poke or understand if I understood the taobao correctly where to send
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Ordered yesterday soldering station - hairdryer
The corps ordered https://world.taobao.com/item/539392658616.htm here.
in the same store to him still a network pad https://world.taobao.com/item/536927327500.htm
The price comes out even cheaper than the body in the collection, the only no legs

If you specify, The Express (meest.cn) is being taken to Russia or not because it is a Ukrainian company.
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  • pc63
  • 15 декабря 2016, 13:35
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They're driving! Clarified
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  • pc63
  • 14 декабря 2016, 19:47
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I liked the kit you gave StainlessSoul, but now I'm afraid I'm going to have to take it in one place. Maybe you've already advised someone in the face, where you can buy this kit - the T12, let not in one, but in a couple of places. I've already tuned to sit pictures to compare, straight trouble, vermeni snul, 5 hours exactly ...
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everything that was advised to someone, there is here in the topic
Vermeni was snumber, 5 hours for sure...
I have to do it (to understand how to buy on Tao, how and where to carry, what exactly to buy) took a couple of weeks ;)
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  • Kvi
  • 14 декабря 2016, 23:05
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Good (for Aliexpress) price. Took from the same seller only without a pen (already available). Now only would ask the seller to replace the controller with a larger display (1,3") - the eyes are already surrendering slowly. The power supply put "people's" - perfectly fit. Note that the case is plastic. And it is necessary either to cut the body itself, or the corner of the controller board - a little interferes with the tide under the screw when installing the controller. To facilitate the heat regime, the BP added air vents in the upper and lower lids of the case. The battery for the watch was taken from a colleague who repairs laptops.
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Ordered yesterday components on a soldering hairdryer.
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  • Mendelua
  • 15 декабря 2016, 10:21
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Can who will be useful, found a cheaper front panel for the case: https://world.taobao.com/item/542489658518.htm ($6.51)
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I don't argue, it's cheaper.
But:
No pen to the encoder
No fasteners
- and I doubt very much that there is a spare glass
Here's my kit


just above, today already laid out an alternative version of the hull in the collection
https://world.taobao.com/item/539392658616.htm
to it still network pad with button and fuse need
Here in the same store https://world.taobao.com/item/536927327500.htm
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  • Mendelua
  • 15 декабря 2016, 11:46
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Yes, it's clear, but in my case the hand is redundant, because I ordered the controller on Ali: aliexpress.com/item/STM32-OLED-T12-Intelligent-Electric-Iron-Temperature-Welding-Units-T12-Automatic-Wake-Sleep-Shock-110-240v/32762001561.html for $25.68. It may be more expensive, but with a 1.3" display and there's a bundled handle there. By now, since last night I can not go to Tao Bao from under Chrome ...
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Well, what was the point of buying a controller on Ali, and ordering the body on TAO?
If they've already started to bother with Tao, they'd buy everything here.
By now, since last night I can not go to Tao Bao from under Chrome ...
It's all, the Tao security certificate is overdue
I use CyberFox (a clone of masila), there is no problem with it
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  • Mendelua
  • 15 декабря 2016, 12:48
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That's not I found on Tao just such a controller.
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the same as me, only the screen was ploughed
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  • Kvi
  • 20 декабря 2016, 09:53
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Has anyone dealt with the correction of the internal clock?
Two weeks I try different options - it does not work.
Tried different options: First ADJ then SET and vice versa. Powered by the network and from the battery.
They're still lagging behind. And he never found a correlation with his actions. It seems that the accuracy of the course depends
from dust storms in Sahar.
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Yes that you are tormented, take from the mother of the watch quartz and try it, you can of course find the Soviet ... That's all your accuracy. In such devices, the watch is not the main element and tact is clearly not a reference, I think everything will be solved by the selection of the exact quartz.
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  • Kvi
  • 20 декабря 2016, 21:25
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That's probably what we're going to have to do. It's just that all the mothers that I had, I already "gutted" the quartz. We have to ask my colleagues.
But if there is a function of correction, it should work. And it turns out that no. What a pity.
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  • Kvi
  • 24 декабря 2016, 23:28
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Replaced quartz with "computer." With the "native" hours lagged behind. Now they're running forward. What to do. You can, of course, score on it. But the soldering iron is constantly in front of my eyes. And the wrong time is misleading - annoying.
And the rest is fine.
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The same problem, hurry hours for 20 seconds a day, the correction does not work. I ploughed 4 quartz from the motherboards only at the 4th frequency of quartz a little less. We began to hurry for 3 seconds a day. He calmed down.
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I've calmed down a long time ago.
the watch does not affect the functionality of the watch, so having bothered for a month stopped paying attention to them.
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It works for me. Fee 2.1S, firmware 2.10. Try the following order: RTC init, then RTC Adj set in 20 (with your current quartz of 3), then you can set the exact time. You don't need to go to RTC Adj anymore. It is necessary to monitor several days, because the accuracy of the course depends on the external temperature, it is possible that at temperature fluctuations the clock will lag slightly in one day and catch up in another.
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  • asup
  • 11 апреля 2017, 16:32
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Tell me, why do you need to bet 20 when leaving 3sec? Is it a handpicked magnitude experienced?
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Not exactly stated - when leaving for the day on 3 seconds should be put 3. Just Nikkolas wrote that at first ran away for 20 seconds, and after 4 replacements quartz began to run away for 3 seconds. It is advisable to collect statistics for a few days to level the effect of temperature.
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  • asup
  • 12 апреля 2017, 05:23
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I got it. Thank you
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Those wishing to save as much as possible when creating a PS offer the option:
- take the old, but working BP AT from the computer and modify it according to the famous scheme of the Italian

- we put the desired 24B on the way out, and on the end of the stock we will have at least 2-3 times
-- we shove the controller's board into the same case, there's a lot of space, and the headscarf is small
As a result, we have PS. Cheap and angry.
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At the end of the review, I added a link to the Yandek disc with the BP and PS WOKA schemes
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  • vetalkh
  • 09 января 2017, 03:44
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Thank you for the work done.
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Toli will still be, preparing an addition, expect from sancho1971 a new addition in the article ;)
BIG RESPECT Denis aka salamatin
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The big screen looks great
Thanks to Denis aka salamatin
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Write how stitched and what is the difference of firmware.
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Soon there will appear in addition, Sasha will paint everything with photos, nothing complicated, a little patience.
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  • vetalkh
  • 09 января 2017, 03:49
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Excellent review turned out, I even caught fire to collect a similar PS.
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There's a good set.
https://world.taobao.com/item/524325408272.htm
An unusual power supply
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The power supply is normal Epaulovsky, only without the ;)
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  • kazushi
  • 14 марта 2017, 06:33
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Just came like this, ordered everything in the collection, so as not to suffer))
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If you collect a soldering hairdryer on stm32, what power will the hair dryer be (what power supply to use)?
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There is no need for a separate BP, all on the same board
The hairdryer is powered by a 220B network
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Soon everything will appear... Be patient ;)
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Here's the station's update: mysku.ru/blog/taobao/48640.html
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Here's a new hairdryer ;)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQDrU4IK5og
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  • bazilio
  • 13 февраля 2017, 16:02
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Great! Will there be a review on it?

I'm wondering which hairdryer will come up to him. like there are hairdryers with thermopa and thermo-researchors or with different thermoparas...

And the Chinese do not write these parameters in the description, at best the turbine voltage is 12 or 24in

I'll buy on Ali, and there's a two-door with a controller broke on the hairdryer 3 end ...
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will be, in early March (I plan)...
here with the choice of hair dryer and there was a problem, the controller is sharpened under a specific model, waiting for the next one with Tao
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Be patient with the release of the review, we have already sorted out the hairdryer and its nuances, sancho1971 will write everything in the article.
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  • bazilio
  • 20 января 2017, 00:15
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Here's another Chinese miracle... who understands stings, firmware comment that he's there twisting!

www.xiaobaiban.net/video-play-2pb6MoLvaH54gBaIk5aM9Xeh8BtuKTH_2B.htm
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And what do you have to tell... WOKA controller (same controller, only modified software), JBC C245 series soldering iron, as if almost the same as the T12 only with a capacity of 150W
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  • bazilio
  • 23 января 2017, 05:25
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I noticed that when he puts a pen on the stand - the station immediately goes to sleep, it seemed that the type of stinger machine is a pre-emptive, but then looked - really seemed :)
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  • bazilio
  • 23 января 2017, 05:22
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Explain the "dumb" :), I only saw these stings in pictures, what is the difference of Chinese T12 stings for 180 - 300 - and under 500r !?

It's all the same, the price depends on the greed of the seller or yet what is produced by the artisanal method and worse quality, and those that are more expensive - factory?

One seller can have a sting and laser engraved and without... But this lottery as I understood, what will put in the parcel is unknown ... Does it even mean anything?

I really had a :) on the roof in a couple of days...

If anyone gives references to proven sellers with swollen stings on ALI - I will be very grateful.
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I really had a :) on the roof in a couple of days...
you haven't come to Tao yet and you haven't looked at the number of options offered.
ps In any case you need to buy and try...
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  • bazilio
  • 23 января 2017, 22:10
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Went... I had a headache very quickly :(
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In vain, everything is fine and brought
a Google translator, like a plug-in for a browser, so is the most important thing
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  • bazilio
  • 23 января 2017, 17:17
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I found A--12 designations and types of use, perhaps someone will help...

forum.cxem.net/index.php?/blogs/entry/337-%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82-%D0%BE-%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%85-hakko-t12/

Unfortunately, the difference in the price of Chinese stings is unclear...
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a piece of information from the HAKKO website.
It's better to look there www.hakko.com/english/tip_selection/series_t12.html
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  • rer343r
  • 26 января 2017, 11:07
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Who knows how to calibrate at one point, I can not calibrate at three points in one degree calibration. There's always a spread of up to 10 degrees! I only need one temperature, the STC could definitely calibrate it, there's no
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What's the point of such calibration?
Is it so important for you to keep track of the temperature with an accuracy of 1 degree? Use the original stinger...
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  • nicman1
  • 03 февраля 2017, 21:14
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Hello! Who wants to order on Ali, cheaper did not find. Controller with quartz of 4 stings. Cheap - 1691 rubles. The order came quickly, I live in Orsk (Ural) here's a link: aliexpress.com/item/STM32-OLED-Controller-T12-B2-T12-K-T12-ILS-T12-D24-Electronic-Soldering-Iron-110-240v/32756472347.html While climbing in the settings, burned the sting " K." Burned the sting when doing the justiring. The hairdryer will do with a separate setting of heater and carlson. I think I'll adjust the temperature to the multimeter. Maybe who did, Ly like mail on the soap: nicman1@rambler.ru
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My set came on stm32. Immediately with the box hooked up the power supply all worked norms. I couldn't go into the settings after a while, I couldn't go into the settings, I asked to enter a password, but I didn't have a password. Contacted by the seller he says the password also did not establish. How can that be? Can I reset my password?
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as an option to re-ask the controller
What is the version of the controller board? If you decide, look here
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Version 2.1s. Does it make sense to open a dispute with the seller?
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What's the argument about?
Immediately with the box hooked up the power supply all worked norms.
And then you could get a cigarette in the settings of anything...
The seller is unlikely to help, he's just a bargain

We've been asking for a new controller (I've laid out the firmware) as I ask for activation codes - knock on the face of Denis aka salamatin,it will help...
and you'll be happy
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The password was sorted out, the standard password 8888. There was adr. The problem of one sting is faintly warm, shows the pace. Hal. 65-70g. (on other stings 24g), pace. sting 224, though I can actually hold my hand. Tell me, will calibration or sting help defective?
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Well so look it was necessary to carefully describe the menu, there it is ;)

In settings:
04. Cold end - what do you have on display? It's 67 degrees Celsius.
Put the room temperature out.
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18g. Without the sting shows 18 grams, insert stinging temperature starts to jump from -6 to 20. The wire rang, the resistance sensor as it should be for 18 grams. What could be the reason?
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reset to the factory and start from the beginning:
Put your tongue out
Put the room on.
"Do the calibration.

check on the other stings, perhaps the sting itself is defective
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  • 0_W_L
  • 13 февраля 2017, 11:49
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Did you call the sting on the body? or there were all sorts of...
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I'll look at home
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Thank you all! The Chinese did not sing properly, it turned out the vibration sensor was a pose. with a termister... Jala called, one 2MM, the other 8Mm
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  • 0_W_L
  • 17 февраля 2017, 06:42
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it's strange that it came out on only one regret...
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Arrived with Tao board controller version 2.1S with a display of 1.3"
Ordered here
In the photo store there is no quartz and connector for the battery, as it is not clear whether there is a connector for the soldering handle.

A board has arrived, which is crucified and quartz and connector under the battery. Battery and socket for the soldering pen in the kit.



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and the hairdryer came (ᴖ.ᴖ)?
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Came...
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  • bazilio
  • 25 марта 2017, 04:29
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what's the 2.1S chip!?
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I've painted here more than once, and I'm not the only one
Here's a look at the review itself
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  • bazilio
  • 03 апреля 2017, 04:05
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sat looking at 2.0 and 2.1s why did they simplify the scheme so much!? I judge by the number of dutals...
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  • aarg
  • 07 апреля 2017, 17:12
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I arrived with tao board controller version 2.0 with a display of 1.3"
Ordered here.
There are no batteries in the kit. Will there be many downsides if I use a battery-free one?
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And why is the controller so expensive, it's kind of like 2.0? Nonsense...
Or is it the whole station?
And what's the problem with putting the battery on 3B???
Without the battery will not tick the clock, to be honest the real benefit of them did not feel, lie godlessly, tried to calibrate, tired, left this idea
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  • aarg
  • 07 апреля 2017, 20:01
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I don't know why it's expensive right now. Two months ago, he was paying $15.08. No delivery.
The problem with the battery is because I don't have it. Weekend. The brother is being drilled now. And then sort out how many cases. It could be a month of another. So I wondered if everything would work there except for hours.
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will work
The indicator will display the temperature, without the display of the watch. Look here for the comments, where there was a picture
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  • Pash_
  • 08 марта 2017, 21:30
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If anyone in Russia will order with Tao, is ready to join to save the shipping, I will not be able to cope.
I will pay for mail in Russia, or in many major cities I can pick up through friends.
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Welcome! Can I measure the soldering controller board, please? :)


A=?
B=?
C=?
D=?
E=?
F=?
G=?
H=?

Thank you in advance!
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I can hardly be able to deal with this fee...
but in a week's time, 2.1S should come, if it does, I can try it.
If no one's measured before, write to me in a week's time.
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Does it have a similar configuration? Just want to try: how much you will have to shovel the body for the "people's board" on the LED indicators.

The following has already been answered, but if it won't be difficult, 2.1S won't hurt either.
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2.0 and 2.1S sizes are identical, they become in the same Chinese enclosure as me
only 2.1S is better because it's a 1.3"
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  • Sascha
  • 21 марта 2017, 15:03
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Dimensions for my board V2.00 with 0.96 OLED
A=61.95 mm, B=9.20 mm, C=27.50 mm, D=8.15 mm, E=30.00 mm, F=7.00 mm, G=15.00 mm, H=15.25 mm
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  • bazilio
  • 22 марта 2017, 04:53
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who knows what the pump is, its parameters? how to look for such or similar to ali? and is there a hacco-type sucker stinger separate, like a zip?

aliexpress.com/store/product/STM32-2-1S-OLED-Controller-3-in-1-Hot-Air-Gun-Soldering-Station-DIY-Electric-Power/1486111_32801879362.html

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Well, if there are pens HAKKO FM-2024-02,

that is, and sting for them

differ in diameter of the hole
But even on Tao the price is not humane

By the pomp offinding this store,maybe that will help
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Here is a specialized version of the pump under the tin pump
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  • skyalex
  • August 5, 2017, 1:13 p.m.
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For bazilio - the link is no longer open, but I think it's from the KSGER store. It also lists the parameters. But the price tag is no different.
Did you manage to find something suitable? I'm also looking for outlines, but so far there is nothing concrete to say.
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I'm not interested in the tin pump yet.
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  • bazilio
  • 06 августа 2017, 04:22
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skyalex is not not up to invention... :( and magaz da KSGER, a bad woman sitting there on sale knows nothing - no matter what you ask, asked her engineer via Facebook, waiting for an answer.

Here the 5th day went - the inginer to see in the binge ... :)
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This bad woman can only spam in the mail, but the prices bully (as soon as the review came out - and snout)
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  • skyalex
  • 06 августа 2017, 13:53
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Think so... It's the same stuff. You start asking her serious questions - "I'll ask the engineer..." )))
And all the time, questions like "you're going to buy"?
Asked about the instructions to the controller and the little things there are questions, asked to help run this shit ...
In response, incomprehensible excuses of some kind and like "well you knew what you are buying, it's DIY kit and need serious engineering knowledge." I was lying around just))))
And in the end, in general came an offer to remove the video and publish with the argument that they want to raise the sale on the site ... I fell into the fallout. No, well, I may not mind, but you, please, help me at least set up your product first...
Took their handle FX-9501, had to finish it myself, spent 24 hours in misunderstandings why the controller does not see and does not heat the sting ... It turned out to be an annoying joint - the inner plastic cartridge when inserting the sting fell into the handle and contact of the kirdyk))
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"Well, you knew what you were buying, it's a DIY kit and you need serious engineering knowledge"
$-))))
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At Ali,' the takeaway is US$689.12
On Tao it has been on sale for a long time. And let it be cheaper, in the area of US$500, only whether it is needed for such a price
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  • Cthulhu
  • 23 марта 2017, 11:52
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Tell me what.
Now I looked at how the liner in the handle Hakko-950 is connected, and it turns out that minus the power sting and the general sensors is one wire - black. And the body (green) is connected only to the body of the stinger. How critical? Leave or remake?
And also, sancho1971, tell us about the pasting of the display. How warmed, at what temperature it was
Thank you
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Minus the power sting and general sensors is one wire - black. And the body (green) is connected only to the body of the stinger.
look closely at the board in the connector area, there clearly visible that

The common wire and the sting case are connected

For the pasting of the display, please contact Nimnul1979,it shifted the screen
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  • Cthulhu
  • 23 марта 2017, 17:14
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It's clear about the land. It's just that when the food is fed on the sting there is not a frail current. It can affect the readings of the thermosensor. A separate wire, in my opinion, would be more correct. On the other side of the case it is connected to the ground in this controller. And there will be another controller where the ground and hull are not connected... Let it be as it is
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It's not a frail current.
It is 10-15 seconds until the sting heats, then it is not large and rises significantly only when a ration of massive parts or landfills.
How many wiring do you have in the cord?
If 5 and the connector to the soldering station remade like mine
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  • asup
  • 23 марта 2017, 12:11
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Tell me who solved the grounding issue on these headscarves?
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Alternatively, from the point of "G" (Rzhevsky:"Lord officers - silence!!!") a separate wire on a terminal isolated from the hull and grounded if necessary.
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  • bazilio
  • 25 марта 2017, 04:25
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I didn't get it... is it that the stinger's body was grounded!?
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Well, like YES.
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Here's my option. Collected for a long time))) Laziness!!!
I've been ordering for a long time. First ordered a controller on a blue board with the inscription HAKKO.
Here's this:
Then I ordered the case thinking that it would be suitable))
Here's this:
As a result, when the case came, the front panel did not come.
But by that time for other needs ordered and not useful in my body: aliexpress.com/item/1-piece-free-shipping-aluminium-housing-case-for-electronics-junction-box-silver-color-and-golden-color/32588838859.html
I decided to make the station building out of it. I may be too big, but I'm happy. The dissed panels cut out the holes, not as neat as wanted but more so. First the hole under the display wanted to paste the org with glass from the back. But the unestheticness of this decision pushed him to abandon it.
As a result, remembering that there is a laminator and the film rolled the entire front panel in the film on the laminator, it turned out though a completely transparent but protective window for the screen.
The place on the front is a lot and the power switch decided to take out on it.
The front and back panel is attached to the hull through rubber pads which have a burtic that acts as a non-sliding support throughout the station.
The power supply was ordered by the people, but came a little different, it already had a Y capacitor. And the planar elements on the bottom of the board were moved to the top. The weekend terminal was put on. The wire to the controller was replaced by a little thicker, took a piece of cable for the soldering iron. And the wire for the controller fell directly into the power supply. No need to have a heap of connections in vain to have)!
The power supply is attached to the body on plastic supports with snaps from the PC case.
The wires from the controller to the soldering iron were shortened a little, so that they would not stick out.
The battery-powered switcher was found on some old modem from the laptop. Sold it to the pad for the 2032 batteries, inserted the battery and put it in the shrink that would inadvertently not shorten what.
In general, as it turned out so I got))))) Dog in work has not checked yet, did not finish the soldering iron. Koich also ordered 3 different)))












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Is there any point in ploughing the power filter if you don't ground the body?
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I think not...
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  • Cthulhu
  • 24 марта 2017, 06:52
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My sting oxidized after calibration. I'm sure I'm not the only one. What do that do?
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  • asup
  • 24 марта 2017, 08:26
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I mean oxidized, the working part of the sting? Show the photo, I have all the stings in the normal, the temperature is kept, calibration went well ...
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  • Cthulhu
  • 24 марта 2017, 12:12
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It is clear that the sting is not wetted by the sing completely, going to the ball
BC2 sting with HAKKO Lead Free
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  • asup
  • 24 марта 2017, 12:20
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Maybe he overheated. Try to clean it with a damp healing sponge and then a drop of solder to roll in a piece of canifoli well or a restorer for stinging to pass through ...
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  • Cthulhu
  • 24 марта 2017, 12:34
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Most likely at calibration the temperature was high, there is also a top point of 450 degrees
I tried to sponge, roll a drop in a canifol, on a spit ... didn't get any better.
Calibration is evil
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  • asup
  • 24 марта 2017, 13:14
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It's up to you to calibrate. I calibrated myself on all my stings.
...
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  • bazilio
  • 29 марта 2017, 19:46
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What's the number of the left sting?
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  • asup
  • 29 марта 2017, 20:56
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T12-J02
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  • bazilio
  • 29 марта 2017, 22:04
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I have a unique parcel turned out, saw your photo and looked at your ... well that did not print.

ordered the T12-J02 and came -



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your for some reason more reminiscent of JL-02
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Yes it is JL-02 error in marking... can a whole party such...
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  • nicman1
  • 26 марта 2017, 20:44
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On the subject of wetness... One person taught in the comments. You take a piece of the board... You put a copper pigtail on it and eat with a flux on it with a slight pressure. I take advice for 2 months... all the stings are whole. After I have finished the ration I leave the tin on the regret... like that. What happened to me with the station... See. I can throw a spl scheme.
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Interestingly it turned out, share the scheme and developments
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  • nicman1
  • 27 марта 2017, 15:59
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Come on mail, gnapc scheme, links to Ali, etc. Box from the selector channels... It already has a chassis.
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Yes, the box is familiar, the prefix for the reception of decimeter channels ;)
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  • nicman1
  • 28 марта 2017, 11:56
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looked at your blog... It makes sense...
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What's behind the blog, can you link?
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  • nicman1
  • 30 марта 2017, 17:24
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Go to Sancho1971
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Share the diagram on the hairdryer, and the links anyone has, I will be grateful!
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  • asup
  • 30 марта 2017, 04:27
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Must the parcel soon with Tao to come with stings with such coverage. We're going to test ;).
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This is the Chinese equivalent of HakKO sting firm SUHAN
https://world.taobao.com/item/523796913852.htm
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  • bazilio
  • 01 апреля 2017, 17:45
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The D16 seems like a log... Well or it's D24
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  • asup
  • 01 апреля 2017, 17:50
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I have a normal sting width. In the photo above the second on the left, the solder is comfortable. Can be a picture of a bad...
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  • Ser
  • 02 апреля 2017, 09:46
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Colleagues, and no one stings this firm does not use? How are they in quality?
aliexpress.com/item/4pcs-set-T12-K-T12-ILS-T12-BC2-T12-KU-Solder-Iron-Tips-T12-series-for/32801911172.html
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posted a review of the hairdryer
mysku.ru/blog/taobao/48863.html
read, criticize
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  • asup
  • 05 апреля 2017, 16:15
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So I finished collecting my "beauty." A huge thank you to Alexander "sancho1971" for his help in buying components on Tao. Special thanks to Alexander and Yuri "Nimnul1979" for technical support!





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Is the stand under the soldering iron comfortable? Tao, too?
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comfortable, heavy, metallic
it is with Tao
https://world.taobao.com/item/543265860826.htm
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  • asup
  • 08 апреля 2017, 00:11
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Yes the stand is very liked - heavy, on the table does not elosite, there are rubber legs. The soldering pad comes in at a convenient angle. Immediately there is a sponge and shavings.
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  • bazilio
  • 09 апреля 2017, 00:03
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but the Chinese do not change themselves - squeezed the rubber band in the yellow sleeve and silicone on the edge of the hole with shavings ...
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  • asup
  • 09 апреля 2017, 04:33
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On my stand rubber insert sits evenly, there is no layer from the casting, probably lucky :).
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  • bazilio
  • 09 апреля 2017, 04:51
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and in the photo in tao it is not at all ... in Moscow, such a stand 5tr is - but I worked in the gas industry :)
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  • asup
  • 09 апреля 2017, 06:13
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Probably the seller changed the photo. I have a rubber band and it is really warm-resistant, checked soldering iron does not melt ... The difference from the original is not this thing, but for this cost I think it can be forgiven ...


Photos from Chinese sales
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 08:28
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Photos without soldering iron.
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And for the handle from the soldering line of the 900th series with a special liner for the T12 stinger will suit the stand?
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I've got a pen from the soldering iron of the Lukey 852-Fan station. Unfortunately, there are no other types.
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  • bazilio
  • 08 апреля 2017, 04:42
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I didn't get that kind of ali...
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  • bazilio
  • 09 апреля 2017, 00:13
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and the controller and bp is quite noisy - great everything catches the fm receiver :)
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Hello world! I'm new here! I came to me such a controller, I connected it and found two problems in it:
1 Adjusting the temperature and scrolling the menu does not work correctly ie if I twist the handle to the right the temperature decreases and if in the left it increases the same when scrolling in the menu
2It's that I don't have a soldering iron yet, plugged in without it, so here on the screen there is that inscription "error" then the exposed temperature and so constantly!
Guys how can you solve problems, and is it worth opening a dispute, on a refund!?

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Clarify which controller, which BP, how plugged, without soldering iron and should be the inscription "error"
The pictures are greeted
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Connected from the lab power supply, just check! As for the inscription should kind of burn the inscription constantly error, and I change the error that temperature, every second changes!
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Cant
carefully review the installation, there is not a quality ration, it is desirable to wash the whole flux with alcohol
take a photo with the problem and to the seller, knock down the "grandmother" through the dispute
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And how to make that when rotating to the right the temperature rises, and in the same left decreases!?
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And how to make that when rotating to the right the temperature rises, and in the same left decreases!?

The only joint that was found on the chip two tracks soldered!
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What?
Is it a snot?
Try to clean up...
The encoder is responsible for the direction of rotation...
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I'm going to snot, I can't physically clean it up, I don't have any equipment! I know what the encoder, and what legs need to change places to work properly, I think to drink and wiring to sleep properly!
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 14:01
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39 and 40 feet on the processor. The scheme is in the review. But I would first try to change the encoder before I cut...
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Hmm, can dell be in it, I mean, it's with marriage?
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 14:11
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Maybe a different type the Chinese have delivered. Their outputs are 90 degrees relative to each other. The controller on this shift determines the direction of rotation of the handle...
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I'll think I'll go to the market, I'll buy it if it's the same! If there will be no collective farms, you just need to understand what to change places! Thank you!
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 14:27
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These findings come from encoder
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try to swap the extreme conclusions (where 3pc) of the encoder.
Where the 2nd is the button.
better still wait for the handles and check with the cartridge
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And the sense to wait, the menu is also the opposite, I opened the dispute, the video took off!
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 14:47
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Put a video here...
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I understand there's three legs, the central leg is the main one, but the extremes are setting the direction of reduction or ledness, if I get you right!
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 14:56
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Yes
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Thank you!
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  • veo
  • 17 апреля 2017, 01:34
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my controller 2.1s (1.3") came with the same non-obvious work of encoder

Narkotik_7468,has the problem been solved?
and the question to everyone is, do everyone at 2.1s have this nonsense with an encoder?
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  • asup
  • 17 апреля 2017, 07:05
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I have such a controller version 2.1s. They brought it from TAO. Encoder works correctly - when rotating to the right increases the saver, left-reduces ...
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Narkotik_7468 opened the dispute and returned the money
my controller 2.1s (1.3") came with the same non-obvious work of encoder
This is the second time here in a musk.
The ones I brought with Tao, no one complained.
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  • veo
  • 17 апреля 2017, 22:10
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mine with Ali from Shenzhen SIE Electrical Technology Co., Ltd.
it can be sorted out somehow corrected, or only another encoder to buy? what model would you recommend?
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what model would you recommend
it uses the standard and most common EC11
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Sash, I see that there are plenty of cases. Can I put it in a hat so you don't answer everyone all the time? You can cross 2 extreme tracks at the encoder on the side of 3 legs. Or it can be done programmatically. I've done fashion firmware for both 2.0 and 2.1S for reverse encoder on the needs of forum residents, but not everyone knows about it.
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Added at the end of the PSS review, I'm waiting for you to firmware
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Mod firmware laid out, thanks to saying to Denis!
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Denis, good afternoon,
I wrote you a face about the activation of the firmware, can you send the code?
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 13:53
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No it's not snot, Sasha look at your board the same legs are connected...
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problematic, I need to dig out from the table, deeply worth it ...

Maybe in the evening, as I come from work...
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 14:39
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And why disassemble... Here's a photo from your review
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At work, zabar, brain boiling ...
I looked, it's all right.
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  • bazilio
  • 10 апреля 2017, 17:01
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Is it 2.0 with 1.3 dipley poly!? to buy, a reference to the seller?
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  • asup
  • 10 апреля 2017, 17:26
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What's going on with your WOKA? Haven't you figured out the kilbroving?
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Let's ask the other thing: have we sorted out the firmware, the calibration and base of the HAKKO sting is?
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  • bazilio
  • 10 апреля 2017, 17:45
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unfortunately, it is necessary to study how stm32 works, and firmware, if it can be pulled out of there... where he writes measured values...

if it writes into the external memory, it can banal 8 foot chip broken ...

And if there is no vigil sting, why is there any external memory? was not enough internal or he can not record inside?

more questions than I can ever treat in my skull :)
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People can know who knows and this controller has a fuse?
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fuse from what?
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Well, there's a fuse in laughter on this controller! Since it worked and stopped! It's probably not my day!
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And where did you find it on the diagram?
What does it mean to have worked and stopped?
Watch carefully the food chain

(in the review itself, this picture is clickable)
Check the voltage at the entrance 12-24B, after U2 - 3.3B.
What did you do to him?
More information...
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Hello!
Connected from the lab unit, the cracodils hooked the controller to the power source and when put on the table the controller accidentally shortened the 24v lodged on one of the legs encoder (on the tight side where three)! How to properly check the stabilizer, where to put the pike?
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if you've put 24B on the encoder's feet, there's a good chance that the controller has been carried out by a high voltage.
U2 stabilizer (ordinary linear as CRENC), date in review is, look and check
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Connect, began to check as you said stabilizer, and he skunk heated in a couple of seconds very much, all that managed to check the fact that at the entrance 23'9 at the exit 0.22!u2 warms very much!
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Connected again the controller began to check the stabilizer, and he skunk heated up for a couple of seconds very much, all that managed to check the fact that at the entrance 23'9 at the output 0.22!u2 warms very much! And still basks in the waves, that is 2 seconds of heating, then cools down a couple of seconds, again heating up! On the first leg the input voltage, on the average 0, at least 0'60, is now definitely measured!
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You have a 3.3B CK, so the stabilizer warms up, probably punctured the controller.
Change the controller, stitch the firmware, as - there is a review and will be happy to you

PS at the bottom of the message has the inscription "Edit" - click it and correct the comment, then save
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Thank you for the consultation!
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although the controller may be alive, may the stabilizer himself has died
have to cut the tracks on the board. Look at the description of STM32 on what leg the food is set and gently or lift it from the board or cut the track to the stabilizer. And measure the voltages of the new
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  • bazilio
  • 12 апреля 2017, 00:44
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Narkotik_7468

And in what magaz you bought your miracle with a confused encoder?
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  • asup
  • 11 апреля 2017, 05:23
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There is no fuse in the scheme! Check the voltage before and after the stabilizer as you were advised above!
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  • zalvis
  • 12 апреля 2017, 20:23
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Guys have two questions, please explain.
As I understood in controllers V2.0 and V2.1S wake up from Sleep lifting (shaking) soldering iron there is no, only a button?
And yet, I'm completely tormented with a sleep sensor stained, if I have a stand stinging down how to wash this sensor, golden foot in the direction of the sting, right or on the turn?
Thank you in advance.
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There is everything in the settings menu is chosen... I have a car... It works fine, though I have a mercurial sensor.
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  • bazilio
  • 15 апреля 2017, 18:04
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I have a soldering iron as it is, but not a sting down and I think it's a filly on it, goes to sleep ...
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What's the right thing to do? Vice versa?
I want to change the balls for mercury, that's how to properly arrange the sensor
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I'll answer it myself. The location of the sensor does not matter. In standbay passes at any of his position
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This depends on the option you choose:
01. Standby, Mode
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  • zalvis
  • 12 апреля 2017, 22:25
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On the second question I found the same picture.
Thank you.
But on the first trouble, the menu is also on the car, the solder goes to sleep, but from the sleeper does not come out, with what I have two controllers and behave the same.
What could be the problem?

That's the scheme I've been collecting.
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  • zalvis
  • 13 апреля 2017, 00:09
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I'll be clear, I have a V2.1S controller. Found on Ali description of the controller, in the description is written way out of the sleeping mode button encoder, nothing is clear.
It seems that in the V2.1S version there is no such function as a way out of hibernation with a shaking soldering iron or I don't understand something.
Happy owners of the V2.1S controller have everyone so?
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  • asup
  • 13 апреля 2017, 05:38
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Controller 2.1s. It has two modes - let's call them both "on duty" and "sleeping." In on-call mode, after the time exposed, the temperature drops to a predetermined (I have 200 degrees)- here works vibration sensor. If you do not touch the pen of the soldering then the controller goes into hibernation (on the screen at the top of the inscription sleeping) - that's from this mode exit into the working mode only by clicking on the encoder.
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  • zalvis
  • 13 апреля 2017, 06:47
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asup thank you, said.
My mistake was to prioritize Sleep, the Chinese were confused, confused with the names of the functions.
Thank you again.
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Thanks to Alexander "sancho1971" for help with the purchase of components for the soldering station. Got my kit for assembly. Now it's up to the small, to collect. )
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2 sets of "my signature legs" for the case and the stand from me as a gift.
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A huge thank you to Alexander @sancho1971 for helping to buy with Taobao kit for assembling a soldering station. It's perfect!
firmware 2.11, display 1.3" quality is also at altitude. Satisfied with all 100%, everything started with "half-kick"
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  • Edvard
  • 12 мая 2017, 18:12
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Hi all.
There are a few questions on the topic.
Gathered PS on st32 v2.1s took in different stores and controller and handle.
The handle (cartridge) of the old model and for the termistor places are not marked, on different schemes (termistor) is put differently tried several options.
But the difference did not notice in all cases works normally and even without it did not see the difference.
There should be a difference and what scheme is correct, where to properly put the termistor, provided that the cartridge for it is not provided.
On the cartridge instead of with one jumper, maybe it doesn't make a difference?
I don't bowl too much in electronics, so don't kick.
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just above there's a piece of the scheme
mysku.ru/blog/taobao/45851.html#comment2010489
It's all properly drawn there.
you can nail the white to the green, just be right, as the black and green on the board close
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  • Edvard
  • 13 мая 2017, 01:45
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At the sting mass I have a white wire snuring, blue and green in their cartridge holes, and as far as I understand go to the vibration sensor. Even when the stinger is inserted into the cartridge white and green are not called, if you connect the handle to the controller between them there is resistance. I'll post the pictures as I have a pen now. Again in my opinion the dog works normally, is regulated, falls asleep and wakes up when you take a pen in your hands. The truth hasn't calibrated the sting yet.


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  • Edvard
  • 13 мая 2017, 01:48
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You don't have a compensation sensor, an exclamation point signals it. And not to offend - the handle needs to be well drunk, a lot of places with suspicious non-2ps ...
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The sensor can be snage simply on the wires according to the scheme and put on/seated on top of the shrink. arrange it all near the clamp that the wire fixes on the liner and do not bother with the old version of the liner.

and how to Dmitriy_1980 - to say contacts on the liner
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  • Edvard
  • 13 мая 2017, 13:44
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Thank you, I'll do it today. Contacts are drunk well, the main miss from the bottom. At first well caught contacts and places on the cartridge, then warmed up to the shrinkage of contacts in place and from the top a little solder but did not warm so much so. They're holding up well. As far as I understand it is necessary to connect the termistor with a green wire, then you can leave it in place where it is now.
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  • Edvard
  • 13 мая 2017, 17:47
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Remade on the scheme (above) in my opinion has not changed anything. Well, except that on the panel there is no exclamation point now. Well, it all works well.
Now there is a question of precise adjustment, but of the meters there is only a multimeter (DT9208A) with a thermopar, but about the accuracy of the readings of this something I'm not quite sure. How accurate are the multimeters and is it worth trusting their testimony, or leave it as it is? The controller shows the exposed and the temperature of the sting exactly, well, 1C can jump tudu here. It's a complete mess.
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Check the cartoon:
boiling water of 100 degrees
- melt water in the ice of 0 degrees
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Are temperature compensation readings changing? I'm hands-on from the sting after a long rations visibly rose ...
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  • veo
  • 16 мая 2017, 22:49
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Tell me, please, and who as fastened the people's BP in this case?
In the photo above I saw something like thick scotch and saw a slicing of hetinax additional plates (for attaching to the board through the native holes at the edges) to be installed in the native slits of the case. And who's so much more sn intentioned?
and is there someone from Moscow who periodically buys on Tao (it is possible to face it)?
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There are many options,
- you can put "ears" from the textolite (as I did in a soldering hairdryer)

- you can set on racks (capron or brass)


- you can install the sites of mounting self-adhesive, and to them screeds


is there someone from Moscow who periodically buys on Tao
it is unlikely, you have intermediaries in Russia apred, prices are fighting ...
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  • veo
  • 17 мая 2017, 15:19
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Thank you
- it is your "ears" that I remember, apparently, I will do the same
How can you stick such legs to the body? do the holes under the screws not really
- the last pads from experience have disgusting scotch, it is necessary to immediately clean it and sculpt the same 3M, did so in the car for the fastening of the wire sv ante (but here the screeds will not comilfo a little in this case:) )

about delivery, so I hope that someone buys himself periodically, well, and join him :)
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someone is purchasing periodically
according to the experience of communication here on the musk, in Russia, few people buy on Tao, especially in the European part ...
There are no carriers with an adequate price, the intermediaries in the region are brazen that the price of Ali seems like a fairy tale and there is no reason for Tao no longer, except the interesting thing is only there ...
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  • dsprts
  • 24 мая 2017, 09:24
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And tell me who's going to tell me where to get such a small battery-powered watch? or then sew 2.1 and not scatter on the board nor the battery
aliexpress.com/item/Electric-Soldering-Iron-Tips-Welding-Handle-STM32-2-1S-OLED-T12-B2-T12-BC2-BL-KU/32778062699.html
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When buying on Tao such problems does not arise, the battery is in the kit, the connector is covered.
mysku.ru/blog/taobao/45851.html#comment1955124
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  • dsprts
  • 24 мая 2017, 10:02
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Maybe from some mothers or other boards will suit? I've been looking for a little, I haven't found them. probably will have to immediately have the holder to fall on the wires or another battery 3v
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  • bestya
  • 24 мая 2017, 10:11
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I got a compaq presario cq62 from a non-working laptop. There's immediately a CR2032 with the connector coming. Perhaps on the old not top video cards from the coolers there.
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  • 8AleX8
  • 26 мая 2017, 06:16
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Tell me what the problem can be, with the power supply goes 24 volts, and on the scoreboard 50-60 volts and the temperature with the question, very much warms the sting, if a little from the minimum rewind, it turns red. T12 controller v 2.2
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you have another PS on the STC controller
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  • 8AleX8
  • 26 мая 2017, 10:10
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It's unlikely, maybe anyone's in the subject.
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What's the joke about the enclosures?
In this design, the case for $2.45, in the design with a hairdryer already for $11.17. Popular T12-d case also from $11
Although the exterior of the case look the same...

What's wrong with the $2.45 case?
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Oh, I get it. The case is free of front-rear panels and power connector.
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Here the case is separate, passing the panel with the glass separately, the back separately, the pad is also separate.
there's a hull in the afair collection.
At the price of yu- equally comes out
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Read carefully, the review describes everything
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  • uBaH
  • 26 июня 2017, 22:16
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Thanks for the review. Pens and stings bought a year ago, as well as stc mini which is not satisfied. South China is China. And with them can work normally or stm32 or scheme victor_p. That's why I ordered with ali for 1400 stm. I'll put in a mini case without a bp. And carry it with you. At one job 24 bpc sitop. At home, bp from the laptop. On the second off the laptop and soon there will be a lab bp. Plus, you can soak up the lighter. I will make a scheme from Victor in a month and the stm will be a hospital. Victor has implemented a software slip of the flood. Wire 3 residential on two handles. About 900. Got two goot sting boo for a penny from 220 in soldering. They have a minimal gap. 3.8 mm internal diameter, ceramics 3.78 mm. T12 nihir. Chinese hacco 4mm. On the hairdryer on the radiokot there is a cheap option for megi. But I plan to do on texas without indication of simple thermostabilization and parrots
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  • 8AleX8
  • 06 июля 2017, 11:37
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Has anyone tried to use such a controller?
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It is unlikely that there is a completely different controller on STM32...
Yours, although it has an LED display, but has nothing to do with the reviewed here.
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  • 8AleX8
  • 06 июля 2017, 12:23
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The controller is called STM32 and has a V 3.5 version
I insert a link to the controller, but it is removed.
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Maybe STM32
I didn't see any pictures of this board, I didn't grope it with my hands.
In the month that you've posted your identical posts in all the reviews of soldering stations, you've had almost nothing answered, so no one knows what's wrong with your fee. Look for info on Chinese forums, maybe you can find something.
According to the controller reviewed here the extreme version of 2.1S, then the Chinese stopped development.
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  • 8AleX8
  • 07 июля 2017, 07:25
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Yesterday apparently the anti-spam was out of sorts and removed the links. Above is a link to this controller.
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Looked, someone here already wrote about this controller
All very primitive, although the percentage of STM32, but the firmware is completely different, the bases are stingy, it seems that they took the old "people's" controller PS on the STC and converted to STM32-OLED.
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  • 8AleX8
  • 10 июля 2017, 10:12
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So our STM32 ver 2.1? Just think which controller to buy and remake your solder with STC
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Nothing more interesting and advanced for T12 than STM32 ver 2.1 has not met
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  • 8AleX8
  • 10 июля 2017, 10:35
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Can there be a link to a proven seller selling these controllers for inexpensive?
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I don't know about Ali, I buy at Tao all the time.
https://world.taobao.com/item/529249246589.htm
Set full, photos already posted
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  • 8AleX8
  • 12 июля 2017, 06:06
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Today the Chinese sent this text:
The new STM32 OSIDA controller arrives, there are 4 languanges you can choose in the controller,
Russian, Korean, English, Chinese,
The link is here,
aliexpress.com/store/product/STM32-OLED-V3-5-OLED-T12-Soldering-Station-Temperature-Control-Board-1-3-Size-Screen-OLED/918038_32822843496.html SPM = 2114.12010615.0.0.NbEog8

And I ended up on Ali ordered myself a Stm32 OLED T12 controller V2.1s
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I also sent a letter, only the use of that controller 8 (((
Meaning to give for this non-coentroler $38.61 if the normal 2.1S on Tao costs $16.12 q delivery less than $1 (set weighs 80g)
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  • 8AleX8
  • 12 июля 2017, 11:17
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It's easier for you, I will cost 250 per kg to Irkutsk and at least 400 by mail from Irkutsk.
But I eventually ordered the 2.1s version on Aliexpress for 1542.46 rubles :)
While the price for Tao would have been 1540 rubles without payment of delivery.
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This spam shop has been singinging me in the mail for a whole month.
Nothing to do with the controller considered here, it's independent development.
calibration on the 1st point, the base is stinging no, the thermosensor in the handle is not - it seems that adapted the people's controller under STM32 and OLED.
The only advantage is the Russian language
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In and me, too, the seller spams ...
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  • Xen666
  • 31 июля 2017, 18:58
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I got two sets today. I've already brought a kuma. I'll collect mine tomorrow.
Sanya (sancho1971) helped without any questions. Thank you very much!
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Also today from Sasha received a set for the ruts, he bought some buns. Sasha, Big Thanks!!!
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  • oleg_s
  • 07 августа 2017, 00:36
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Please tell me the stamp.

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  • Kvi
  • 10 августа 2017, 20:26
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Yes most likely the usual diode 4148
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  • oleg_s
  • 10 августа 2017, 21:07
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Yes, here looked the scheme from WOKA, there is a diode, and stabilizron on 10V. A stable of the type of M4728 with a blue stripe. I'm sitting there thinking.
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  • Kvi
  • 10 августа 2017, 21:19
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Once again revised the scheme - this is the usual 1N4148WS. It feeds the 3.3V stabilizer. Don't doubt it. If it was a stabilizer on 10B, it would be turned in the opposite direction. Although, in principle, you can put a stabilized in reverse inclusion. 10 volts of 24 will fall on it. The rest on stabilizer 3.3. But with a simple diode works - the current of consumption on the chain 3.3in small - the stabilizer will not warm much.
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  • Sborman
  • 10 августа 2017, 23:06
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Good time of day!
Guys, please tell me, who knows where to put the watch battery on this controller?
And what battery do you need to buy?
Thanks in advance :)
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  • oleg_s
  • 10 августа 2017, 23:47
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To the first leg of the STM. By the way, there is a place on the board under the battery connector.



Battery on 3V as on motherboards, laptops.
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  • Sborman
  • 11 августа 2017, 01:55
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Thank you very much!
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  • Sborman
  • 12 августа 2017, 21:25
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Can you tell me, please, who's at what temperature? What is the usual temperature for rations? The station is assembled, can not decide on the temperature put a lot of sting oxidized, put less ration cold or poor melts ... Who's going to give you some good advice? Thank you in advance.
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it all depends on what to drink and what we drink
for example - I have a prie pic-61 (still stocks with a scoop) - a solder 270-290 degrees
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  • Sborman
  • 12 августа 2017, 21:57
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270-290 degrees on your station display? Did the sting be calibrated? Did you check the real temperature?
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and on display and really, the sting calibrated
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  • Sborman
  • 12 августа 2017, 22:25
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Thank you :)
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  • Murometz
  • September 14, 2017, 8:44 p.m.
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Looks like. I have for pic61 250-270, if the details are larger than 320
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  • GarikXP
  • 22 августа 2017, 13:26
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Guys, now the Chinese on Tao are selling empty blanks for the plowing? No one thought about buying it? Will it be cheaper to break up all the components or will it be more expensive?
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they have been sold before...
https://world.taobao.com/item/555099575877.htm
I don't know if sheepskin is worth dressing?
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  • tam250
  • 27 августа 2017, 16:55
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Error in the description of the article, flashing point is the triggering of the sensor, for the correct operation of the metal end must be crumpled in the direction of the prostele.
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You don't have to sing
in the direction of provatyes
it all depends which mode is selected in menu 01. Standby - Mode : Auto (automatic), Shake (vibration), Switch (switch), Manual (manual)
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  • tam250
  • 28 августа 2017, 11:59
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Oh, that's right! Does anyone have a shaped front panel that's 10 bucks? At least the main points, I will be immensely grateful, draw a model, share who needs.
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Also, it caught fire to assemble such a station, confused already in the variants of the controller's execution ... on Ali found this version of the controller, who will say about it - a new version or Chinese craft?
aliexpress.com/item/-/32822843496.html
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It's a dark horse. She has been actively sn out recently by a Chinese saleswoman. No one really knows anything about her. Is there a base of stings and their calibration x.s. Take a fee on the STM 32 version 2.1S with a 1.3 inch screen and rejoice. The firmware should be version 2.11
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It's a complete suck, there's no base, the thermosensor on the board itself shows the temperature on Mars, which means that the temperature compensation for the cold share in the very pits is absent, as the calibration of the sting xh is carried out. One advantage - Russified
Dmitriy_1980 correctly written, take 2.1S with a 1.3 inch screen and rejoice.
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  • Pataskun
  • 05 октября 2017, 04:45
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Well, here's the Russian in the menu and attracted)) although not critical, but it would be nice)
I would have ordered it earlier, but there were few sellers on it, and I have never encountered tao, and I am afraid of it... now, like, and on a lot of people who sell, but here's another question, a lot cheaper will come out on tao than on Ali, taking into account all sorts of intermediaries, if you collect the full set?
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you, as a Russian, do not care, your intermediaries killed all the buzz to buy on Tao, prices as Ali, and hemor more.
Take 2.1S with a 1.3-inch screen
aliexpress.com/store/product/STM32-OLED-Controller-Screen-Size-1-3-Handle-Station-T12-Soldering-Iron-Tips-Electronic-Soldering-Iron/918038_32814484017.html
and do not fool your head, but here the body of plastic and liner in the handle is worse, but not expensive and 4 more stings in the set (you can communicate with the seller and choose your kit)
you can also find with a dural hull, but it will be more expensive

Well, here's the Russian in the menu and attracted)) although not critical, but it would be nice)
Well, if you want - buy with the Russian, sort out the work, find out all - and - do a review

P.S. I with the Russian would not even take as a gift - the slag is full
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  • Pataskun
  • 05 октября 2017, 14:45
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second good, look below Dmitriy_1980 photo of this BP in an aluminum case laid out
the third is the "people's BP" on 24B 4(6)A, here, it is true a long time ago, kirich it was well protested. Used it in his first soldering stations
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Changed the people's power supply. Who will ask why, I answer - I love when everything is :). Took on TAO through sancho1971, for which he had a special thank you!

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  • oleg_s
  • 26 января 2018, 07:04
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And the power connector with the switch they directly to the board are soldered by their lines, without "additional wires"? Is it a plug-in or did you redo it yourself?

The switch is not on the hairdryer, the included should be at the top. :)
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The connector was hooked on the board with its pins directly to the board. The switch changed to its own and melted it with the help of a single-stranded copper wire with the diameter of the curved in place. Turning my station up, turning it down - so it's all in "feng shui." In the photo, the station in a switched off position says the symbol "O" at the end of the switch. Not by "feng shui" that the switch in the pulsed power supply rips only one of the wires - it's my joint ...
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  • Kembrik
  • 09 октября 2017, 15:22
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At leisure, I drew a 2.1S controller diagram. Some of the components are not signed because he drew from pictures from the Internet, there is no controller on his hands.
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Thank you very much, I think it's useful
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Thank you again!
Added to the review.
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  • Kembrik
  • 14 февраля 2018, 13:44
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He drew the missing denominations.

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  • DmitryA
  • 26 марта 2018, 17:22
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Is there a vector form? (Or in the form of a CAD file)
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  • Kembrik
  • 26 марта 2018, 17:59
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  • DmitryA
  • 26 марта 2018, 19:34
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Thank you
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  • limoncn
  • 01 апреля 2018, 14:53
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I make a headscarf according to this scheme... Under the blue headscarf...
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Lay out a vyl, add to Google disk
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Added to additional materials
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  • vulkan35
  • 21 октября 2017, 09:09
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A list of details.

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From the store on Tao, let it be, maybe someone for repairs will be useful
Thank you!
Added to the review.
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  • bazilio
  • 31 октября 2017, 00:56
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Who can buy T12 sting on TAO, in the sense that already tested?

By the way, the little BP is already a kayak, that's a quick seller fell off ...
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already wrote here
I'll say it again.
constantly taking the T12 sting on Tao inthis store
SUHAN are good, proven hakKO analogues

By the way, the little BP is already kayaking
I mean, die?
Or missing from sales?
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  • bazilio
  • 31 октября 2017, 18:56
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Thank you, yes lost, can of course only lot, I do not know much there ...

but the controller is already without a battle in the lot...
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Bought a set for $52.

The seller returned $25 (the reason for the discrepancy between the encoder and the hull as in the TS)

Photo controller

Total: $27, subject to delivery
aliexpress.com/item/STM32-OLED-V3-5-OLED-Screen-Size-1-3-T12-Soldering-Station-Temperature-Control-Board-Electric/32821308037.html
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A pitiful likeness of the controllers examined here.
Base sting no, calibration at one point, thermosensor on the board, not in the handle (where it places), measures the weather on Mars.
In this review mikas have already warned not to buy this UG.
Here in the comments I also wrote that it sucks ...

PS of course, this "solder controller" has a very essential q - The Russian language in the menu, which absolutely does not affect the quality of rations.
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Well, first of all: not YOU,but YOU. Let's respect each other.

Second,
explain why it is so important for the thermosensor...
how the thermopapa works I will not tell you, do not understand why you need a thermosensor and compensation cold solder, so you do not need it. If you want to understand - read the theory.

Third,
I do not intend to respond to rudeness and rudeness. I'm used to interacting with adequate people.
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96wat
she definitely can't, the sting is only 70watt
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  • DDimann
  • 07 ноября 2017, 14:21
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If only the tension to get in. . . . From 24B to 32B.
It won't get worse, I'm an optimist - I think there's nowhere worse...
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See the STM32 power chain, if there is a linear stab.
And the power elements need to look at the boundary parameters ...
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  • DDimann
  • 07 ноября 2017, 15:45
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I was the one who mocked the stated characteristics of :)
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Absolutely all sting max 70w haw?
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Those with a heater resistance of about 8 Om...
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Original HAKKO all 70W
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do not be rude to the author of the review, believe me, the person in this understands and understands what from and where on this handkerchief, and if you grabbed is not clear that not understanding the intricacies of the versions and even because of the little things whale was so you "-" in karma, and then began here.
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sancho1971 A pathetic likeness why a very good soldering iron
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(A pathetic likeness) sho on the account (thermosensor on the board, not in the handle (where it places), measures the weather on Mars)
will be a suf or you write untruths ....?
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I'm not arguing, the powder will be
understand the modes and features, and then compare its functionality with the proposed in this review

Better yet, write your review. We will read and comment.
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The seller returned $25 (the reason for the discrepancy between the encoder and the hull as in the TS)
One hole? What, you couldn't drill? Or is it fashionable to open up the little things and shave off the money? I wouldn't even write that.
Sensor software: The cold-sleeping compensation sensor is placed as close as possible to the transition of the TP---meglyde wires, in order to eliminate the difference in measurements, in our case in the handle near the pins of the sting.
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in some of the events ali steers
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Alas, this is not the case...
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Anu can offer a cooler or cheaper $27
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The original price is not $27, but $52
The fact that you lost the Chinese and returned $25 (I honestly do not believe it) it does not apply to the original cost, in the store from this price has not changed.

If you take on Tao kit for self-assembly, it will turn out (given delivery in China)
- controller 1.3" 2.1S white - 118-yu
- liner in the handle - 17.5yuana
- pen 900 black - 6yana
- wire 5 lived 1.5m black - 6yana
- aluminium 130mm set - 73
Network pad 3v1 - 3.5
Power supply 24B 5A - 39
The final price of the set is $263.
Delivery in the area of $10
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cooler already offered in this and other reviews, what you bought - it's not that discussed here, it's an updated version of the board that was still on the chip, just transferred the handkerchief to stm32 and the functionality as was squalid and remained., laziness they had the 5th contact on the thermosensor to withdraw in the handle, on this 4 and measures the space of the case and not as much as put. from here and the errors are horse-drawn
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Are you a salesman?
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Judging by this subject, you do not read reviews and comments on them. It's probably beyond your dignity...
Therefore, I will write again that I bring to everyone under the order, as kits and related goods, mainly for residents of Ukraine, although once and for the Russian made a purchase.
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the body is plastic, fastened on tape, laughed
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again 25 that you all cite not current versions of the boards?!
everything is already a pancake
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The handles are kind of good, but not for t12. It's for an induction station like...
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Pen for JBC T245-A.
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Dima, you're wrong.
It's just under T12 and T2

Used a liner with contacts similar to the one used in the 9501 handle

in the review a similar pen is presented in the photo

I'm not arguing, it's cool, but the price isn't very $85.00.
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On the first link agree, and on the second pen for JBC T245-A.
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And the big question on how long will look our cartridges T12 burtic ... Here is a photo pulled from the reviews of the handle that on the first link:


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  • bazilio
  • 15 ноября 2017, 16:19
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sancho1971 I paid the same amount for a plastic well, except with the occasion and connector it was already...
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So is the tao price
if these pens appear on Ali, I have no idea how much they will cost there ;-))
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  • nick23
  • 23 ноября 2017, 21:42
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Slightly cheaper hike 40th: aliexpress.com/item/Ksger-T12-STM32-OLED-DIY/32836043839.html
Plastic case. Like seen the handles to choose from with the data? Sets.
But the regular fishing rod IMHO easily finishes to the Bacon.
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nick23, Controller 2.01 under the mobile version, on batteries 18650, 26700.
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Controller 2.01 is the same 2.0, only the soldering connector falls directly into the board.
And who told you that 2.0 and other controllers can't run on batteries?
Carefully read the description of the menu, learn a lot of new ;-)
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The controller with the support of sting 936, T12, JBC.

item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.6639537.1997196601.22.7a7986d2RoG3ls&id=549317924050
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What are the possibilities?
Similar...
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Information is not much in Chinese, the seller in the description has links to a small manual and video.
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  • bazilio
  • 26 ноября 2017, 23:22
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Sometimes it seems that the Chinese do not know where to put an abundance of electronic components, and earn especially does not work ... Because the earth ball became small and all their unfinished guano quickly crawls out on the forums...

Of course this is to some extent compensated by the relative cheapness and that they at least try to constantly that new :)

Support heating core: — Three-wire thermocouple heating core (JBC)

— Second-line thermocouple heating core (T12)

— Four-wire thermal resistance heating core (936 original)

— Four-wire thermocouple heating core (936 made in China)

 

■ three sleep modes: vibration sleep, switch sleep, sleep button

■ two kinds of operation: two keys a rotary encoder temperature control mode; four key mode

■ quick temperature adjustable (can save three kinds of standby interface, press the Enter key to quickly switch)

Temperature stability: ± 1 degree

■ adjustable temperature range wide: 100 degrees -480 degrees

■ Wide supply voltage: single DC voltage (18V-39V)

■ MOS over-current, over-temperature protection

■ audible alarm and prompt

■ with ten kinds of head calibration parameters storage and selection

■ with a heating core manual software correction (zero, the sensor temperature coefficient)

■ with a manual iron software correction (metal heat transfer coefficient compensation correction)

■ PID can be manually adjusted and saved (affect heating time, temperature stability)

■ Automatically save after temperature change: automatically save after 4s after changing the setting temperature

■ external temperature probe, easy to calibrate the temperature of the soldering iron, using K-type thermocouple accuracy of 1%

■ Adjustable temperature step (1-50 degrees)

■ adjustable temperature alarm limit (0-200 degrees)

■ Vibration sleep time adjustable (0-99 minutes) Set to 0 to enter the switch hibernation mode

■ Automatic shutdown time adjustable (0-99 minutes)

■ with temperature lock, set the lock

■ password protection, protection of the setting parameters

■ Restore factory settings (password required)

■ Chinese and English two language options

Standard: 5 small power plug, 4 plug with temperature compensation, 3 plug, 2 plug, encoder, vibration switch, one each encoder button. Thermocouple wire 0.5 meters. (Key version needs to contact customer service)
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  • wiseman
  • 05 февраля 2018, 15:12
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I'm certainly wildly sorry, but it seems to me that it's a controller to replace the existing 936 PS to switch to the T-12 sting.
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Exactly... It is the killer of all the controllers made by the Chinese... I haven't seen the best yet! And I'm not afraid to say it, it is very compact and functional, you can embed anywhere, feed it as you like (BP or DC-DC Step Up)
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Hello world! People tell us if you buy a hairdryer and connect to this controller, will work, if not then prompt an inexpensive controller to control the hairdryer!?
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The hairdryer won't work.
For the hairdryer there is another controller from the same developer
here's a review on it
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Thanks, seen on YouTube make a simple hakko board where there is no lcd screen but with a digital display!
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link zin here, look
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Well, it's not noticed on STC, there's just a thermoregulator with a thermometer
And here everything is much more complicated and interesting
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Here's the thing:
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Bring in, do a review;-)
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How I will collect a "combine" to throw a couple of photos that turned out. Looked after the tin pump, just the best option.
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It has manual control and has nothing to do with the controller;-)
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I was looking after it with the manual.
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I also considered them, but it never came to the purchase:-( ( (
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  • Kembrik
  • 27 ноября 2017, 11:45
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aliexpress.com/store/product/Ksger-V2-1S-STM32-OLED-1-3-T12/918038_32844179319.html
Greedy AliExpress Chinese have dropped the price. It used to be 2.1S cost $30, now it's 20. It's a bit of a shame, broke this Lisa to reset the price, did not agree, and when already bought at a sale in another store knocking down the price coupons, on you, and she lowered the price.
It remains to wait for the price of the hairdryer controller to fall.
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Such a controller on Tao costs $118.90.
may on Tao cheaper ;-)
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Broke his head as to fasten the boards and transformer in the case, accidentally ran into. Nut rivet, for aluminum casings that is necessary.

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I was scratching my head, too. First, he stuck the "people's block" on three layers of two-sided tape. And then I ordered a new power supply, (Thank you Sancho1971), which got into the grooves of my aluminum case and everything became fenshhuy!
P.S. By the way with the people's power supply sometimes noticed on the screen of the station artifacts, after the replacement of the power supply - never it was not!
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Dima well you gave ;-))))
Sancho1979
i am sancho1971
Jura - Nimnul1979
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Sorry,Sancho1971, the post corrected, with Yura nick confused :)))
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  • firebie
  • 28 ноября 2017, 23:47
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Can I link to a new power supply?
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  • Sergey_5
  • 09 декабря 2017, 23:42
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Good time of day! Torment PS STM 32 Combo 2v1 can someone help to find the firmware.
Thank you in advance.
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If I'm not mistaken, then molot38x should have firmware, write him in person
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  • Sergey_5
  • 10 декабря 2017, 00:03
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Thank you I'll try!
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  • tostov
  • 11 декабря 2017, 11:39
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Hello world.
Honestly read all the branches about STM32 2.1s controllers. I now have a t12 whale of the very first version with 3 digits on the screen. I want to make an upgrade, but with minimal investment. BP so-called "people's." On BG with coupons I want to take STM32 2.1s But judging by the photo in the set there is no termistor. The question is: can I adapt the handle from the old t12 to this controller? What model of termistor is needed if you need it?
Thanks for the answers.
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You change the fee, it fits in size.
Next what you need: GX12-5 connector (you probably have 3 contacts), a 5-bed wire, a 10k Om thermals (or a drop with a tod or in glass as a stabilizer), a position sensor (ball or mercury)


Try it if anything - ask
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  • tostov
  • 11 декабря 2017, 13:53
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Thank you for the answer. I have five contacts. Wire 5 lived. Position sensor is ball. It turns out that it remains to find the termistor. On Ali found this
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  • vulkan35
  • 11 декабря 2017, 15:53
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He's the one, 10K.
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  • tostov
  • 11 декабря 2017, 16:08
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Is it 5%? Found on ebay black round at 1%
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  • vulkan35
  • 11 декабря 2017, 16:33
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MF52-103/3435 10KM 1% these more accurately will be.
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  • tostov
  • 12 декабря 2017, 10:21
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Thank you for your help. Ordered whale and termistors. I think it's going to work out.
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"Thank you" usually express a plus on a comment or in karma
;-)
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  • Kembrik
  • 25 января 2018, 21:43
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Did anyone measure the resistance of the glass termistor that the Chinese put in the set? I had it at room temperature was about 19k. Are they there throwing something at hand? Or is it not fundamentally important because of adjusting the temperature through the controller menu?
Found in the back of a couple of thermals of another kind, so these are really about 10k. Now I think to change or not. In principle, the temperature on the stings is accurate.

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I didn't measure it, but if I'm interested I can look.
Realistically MUST be exactly 10kOm

Green from BP comp?
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  • Kembrik
  • 25 января 2018, 22:19
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Yes, green from there. Behaves like blue. Blue from the air-heat veil controller.
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Now I think to change or not.
If the temperature is stable, I think it is not necessary...
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  • Kembrik
  • 17 декабря 2017, 21:33
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I found such a feature of this controller. When the vibration sensor is closed in the handle, the sting temperature is raised by 3-4 degrees. SW-200D sensor with ball. However, I have this sensor connected to the minus of the heater power, not to the grounding of the sting. But it is definitely not a hindrance when heated, because noticed this feature in sleep mode, when the sting is cold. Am I the only one who was so lucky or didn't pay attention?
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  • Kembrik
  • 17 декабря 2017, 21:35
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I'll also write off the types of sensors on standby. Maybe who's going to be good.
SHAKE mode is a vibration sensor, SW-200D or mercurial (tracking changes in contact status).
SWITCH mode is the end. Hard binding to the state of contact. And when the soldering iron in the stand, the end should be closed, and when the soldering iron in his hand - open. And no other way.
I immediately thought of the mode SWITCH and SHAKE differ only by tracking the frequency of the sensor trigger.
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  • oleg_s
  • 18 декабря 2017, 10:19
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If I went so drunk, I'll remind you how to adjust the clock.

You just have to specify how many seconds a day they're running or lagging behind the real-time clock in the soldering station and clicking on the encoder. Then confirm the "Confirm" or cancel the "Cancel" adjustment. If the clock is more than 60 seconds away, then adjust the move for 60 seconds first, confirm the adjustment, and then adjust the move again for the remaining number of seconds. For example, if the clock runs for 80 seconds a day, then first adjust the error on the "60S", confirm the "Confirm" and then adjust again on the "20S".
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thanks, added in the review
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  • Kvi
  • 10 января 2018, 20:50
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That is, by the method of successive approximations? This week will take the optimal adjustment. And then you can see the resulting factor (so that in case of reset again not to spend a week on setting?
To be honest, I played with this function for a long time (wrote down the value on a piece of paper, corrected), but never achieved the desired result and spat on this function.
On the next controller, instead of quartz, I will put a handkerchief on the DS3231 as a 32768Hz support generator. The STM itself allows for external hour-long synchronization.
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  • Kembrik
  • 10 января 2018, 21:01
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It took me two days. For the first day I added 20 seconds, for the second day I had to add 1. And that's it, now they go like atomics. :)
Fee 2.1s if that.
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  • Kvi
  • 10 января 2018, 21:07
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I've got 2.00
And yesterday I got another one of the same. I started to stitch and it turned out that despite the fact that the boards look VERY similar, but the crucifixion of programming points is different (V-G-D-C) - had to redo the "tail" of the ST-Link programmer, which he did before.
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  • Kembrik
  • 10 января 2018, 21:20
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There are fakes on these controllers.
And by the way, according to the information of which I have, the board version 2.00 from the developer zhonggx80 (aka CNC) does not exist.
There are five boards of original versions:
Ver1.0
Ver1.1
Ver2.0
Ver2.0S
Ver2.1S
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  • Kvi
  • 10 января 2018, 21:52
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I took this: aliexpress.com/item/Ksger-STM32-OLED-V2-0-1-3-T12/32843463427.html Yes version written 2.00
Especially since the price for 1.3"OLED $15 is very normal.
I came to the center of Russia in 12 days and was surprised.
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  • Kembrik
  • 10 января 2018, 22:09
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The developer does not have such a fee. It's probably a third-party craft. They took the scheme and pecked their wiring.
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  • Kvi
  • 10 января 2018, 22:14
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I'm perpendicular to what kind of showdowns they have in China :)
The main thing that works and sold out)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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  • oleg_s
  • 10 января 2018, 22:15
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Del
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  • Kvi
  • 10 января 2018, 21:13
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I want to clarify the logic of the adjustment process once again (for especially "gifted" :).
1. Expose the exact time on the display (let's say on the Internet).
2. At the same time, in 24 hours we compare and introduce an amendment ratio of difference.
Do you want to re-install the right time again or leave it as it is?
3. Another day, if the time again is not accurate to introduce a new amendment.

Perhaps my mistake was that every time I entered the adjustment, I put the exact time again?
Shouldn't you have touched him?
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  • Kembrik
  • 10 января 2018, 21:15
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That's right, you need to re-expose the right time.
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  • oleg_s
  • 10 января 2018, 21:35
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Maybe you injected the amendment incorrectly?
If you're in a hurry, for example, for 5 seconds, you need to enter 5S.
If you are 5 seconds behind, you need to enter -5S.
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He also did it in three receptions. At first it was 20, then the 5 and the third time -2- a little too much over the :). For a month leave about 15 seconds, on that and scored ...
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  • oleg_s
  • 10 января 2018, 22:17
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You can do two tricks. First, remove the main error, and then see the error, for example, for 10 days, the received value divided by 10 and the resulting number to adjust.
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  • Kvi
  • 10 января 2018, 22:30
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I tried. On the piece of paper wrote the meaning. But for the 10th day forgot about it))) - the cases of others are full. I'm going to have to put a reminder on the phone.
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  • Ogonek
  • 19 декабря 2017, 17:56
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Apparently SWITCH, it's the same theme: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRUbYGF1dJs
It will be necessary to remove the motion sensor in the handle.
The passage of the motion sensor from the board to connect with a metal stand.
On the cartridge/sting casing hangs minus.
When you're in contact (when we put the solder on the stand) the stinger with the iron of the stand immediately turns on the mode of dropping the temperature to a given parameter (without waiting as when the motion sensor works).
Something like Metcal, but there is no contact, and the magnet unmagnetizes the sting and induction immediately cuts off.
-- Pros: Immediately there is a drop in temperature if poked solder in the hold.
Cons: You need to connect the stand or the body, or pull the shoelace to it.
Well, though insignificant, but there will be a heat exchange between the sting and the stand. (It is necessary to check almost- whether the controller will not toss the feeder because of the greater cooling of the cartridge when in contact with the metal of the stand)
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Nonsense...
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  • mir7000
  • 19 декабря 2017, 13:55
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I'm sorry, I'm not in the subject! But want to also order this Ksger V2.1S digital STM32 OLED 1.3 can on Taobao cheaper will be? But I have not bought on tao only on Ali, I live in Ukraine. If it is cheaper then tell me how to do?
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  • Ogonek
  • 24 декабря 2017, 13:34
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You can add:
In sleep mode, when the display is turned on and on the display there is a moving screensaver with temperature-turn in any direction (without pressing) the encoder handle-appears on the menu display with the date, day of the week, hours (if there is a battery and pre-installation) and temperature.
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  • Diki
  • 27 января 2018, 19:23
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  • Ogonek
  • 28 января 2018, 12:00
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They're going to work.
Enough from 3-4A, no more pity or controller do not need.
More powerful BP is quite good in reserve and temperature.
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The T12 jala have the stated capacity of 70W
The power supply at 24V/3A (72W) is more than enough to operate the station. Maximum 3A stinger consumes only at the moment of initial heating or at warming warm-up heat test site and then not always. So chasing a very powerful BP makes no sense.
BP on links is more than enough for a soldering station...
BUT if you think you won't have enough, buy one for 24V/10A
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I would take the block on the second link. I have a block of the old version - (judging by their website) but works very well, barely warm- the power for the station is enough with stock. In the metal body goes into the grooves, the radiators do not interfere. Well, the price is not the last value of $20 against $11...
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  • zalvis
  • 04 февраля 2018, 14:53
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All health.
Tell me, maybe who heard saw, fake or still came out a new stitch?

aliexpress.com/item/Ksger-T12-STM32-OLED-V3-0-DIY-fx9501/32851333426.html
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Interesting...
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Shop fake, they have their own coder, they type write their firmware like the original ... Shorter shit!
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  • firebie
  • 13 февраля 2018, 00:38
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If you look closely at the controller board, you can see that it is 2.01.
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Yes, it's not about the board, no one's board ploughed, remade the firmware
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  • firebie
  • 13 февраля 2018, 21:54
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And why is the price for the finished station with V3.0 firmware less than the set "collect yourself" with V2.1S?
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Well, I have nothing to do with pricing;-)
Can store special promotes kits with a new version of firmware and dumps prices
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  • wiseman
  • 05 февраля 2018, 12:57
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Welcome to everyone! Interested in the T-12. I have read about your great collective experience, and I hope that someone will be able to help me with a kind word... and better with advice,... footnote ... Or file. :) I want to assemble such a station on STM32 and T-12 for personal use. I have little experience in making budget amateur radio equipment. In order not to be unsubstantiated, I give a picture on the working product.
This power supply is 0-24Volt 0-4A and the soldering station of the respected AKA Electra on Attiny 24 with the cheapest soldering iron on a thermal pair in one case from CD ROM.
I'm going to put out a PHOTO VERSION of my idea, as if a sketch project...
I have a personal question to the author of the review about the acquisition of soldering iron at Taobao. On Ali prices are unrealistic, and we sell twice cheaper than Ali. An adequate price was found on Taobao. I collect three-piece of these solders for my grandchildren to get to the useful, and to distract a little from the mobiles. :) If you have the opportunity, then beacon in the face of the starwiseman2@gmail.com All the others please share circuitry, firmware and, if possible, the key generator.
I will do it for anyone, but after "paying all the membership dues," as S. Altov said, "remained without means of subsistence." The only way out is to do what is possible, including BP on 3-4A. (And the most interesting to say.) Experience is on pulsed BP, and still no matter how much the fee. I think it makes sense to do immediately for the aluminum case under the grooves and sizes 120mm. And in the case of CD ROM, which just lying around, will fit the folk Chinese 24B BP 3-4A for $5, and many other useful things. On a machine with CNC from a piece of aluminum or plastic it will be possible to make a universal panel for the station in the case from CD ROM. So do it yourself! Perhaps someone will be interested in such a people's budget project. I'll share all the work.
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about helping with Tao and further advice write in person
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and you can be a little off the subject, the stand from the list is no longer
Can you advise or what it was called?
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Clarify which stand is interested
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which in the original review
it's just no longer available and the name is not found

I'll look at the edgings, the sps.
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which in the original review
In what original???
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  • vulkan35
  • 06 февраля 2018, 16:34
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You can have some advice
Took such no regrets, the price is in the region of $10-12 with delivery.


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I have this

bought here
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  • vulkan35
  • 06 февраля 2018, 17:52
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bought here
I took mine here.
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  • vulkan35
  • 06 февраля 2018, 16:27
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How to soak up the controller with a toroidal trance, 24v AC-DC converter exists?
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if the 24B change is not good.
After the diode bridge and electrolyte there will be 32-34B
need a trance on 18-19B - diode bridge 50B 5A (can be higher) - electrolyte 4700 (50 (63)B (possible more capacity)
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  • vulkan35
  • 06 февраля 2018, 17:44
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While forming the parcel will still have to take the people's bp, trans change 2 windings on 24v. Pancake specifically ordered a trance with two windings on the park pointed 24-0-24, when it was necessary 24-0-17. :(
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What current?
if the amp by 5 is a good basis for BP
or 55B 5A with winding switching
or 2/32B 5A
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  • vulkan35
  • 06 февраля 2018, 17:59
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5A will pull no problem, trance 120W. Special took for the controller unisolder, on the second channel through the straightener wanted to hook the controller T12. When ordering, I got a blast, then it was a snous.
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a, so this is one winding - 24B 5A 120W
I thought you had two windings of 24B 5A.
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  • vulkan35
  • 06 февраля 2018, 20:47
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I have 2 windings of 24B capacity totaling 120W 5A. For unisolder controllers, STM32 would be enough for the eyes, with simultaneous load.



Here's how the straightener was implemented on the 936 controller sharpened under the T12 sting.

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i.e. you have a trance on 120W with a yield of 2/24V, the law of Grandpa Om tells me that the maximum current in each winding will be 2.5A.
For unisolder controllers, STM32 would be enough for the eyes, with simultaneous load.
For a hairdryer 2.5A more than, for soldering iron - not enough.

Make on the basis of this trance linear LBP with switching windings, will turn out under load in the area of 48-50B and 2-2.5A
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Two diodes are a normal two-period straightener. It's going to be 30 volts. Then some step-down to 24.
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Om's grandfather's law tells me that the maximum current in each winding will be 2.5A.
Correct trance power total, one secondary winding 24 to 2.5A
You can combine the windings in a parallel, and at the exit we get 24 in 5A.

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You can combine the windings in a parallel, and at the exit we get 24 in 5A.
This is possible if we have two independent windings of 24B or if you remove the external insulation and find a diversion from the middle and disconnect the halves
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We planted the idea, cling to the ground on one secondary outlet, on the second exit 0 from the outlet. From the primary we have a voltage output. :)
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I begin to collect material on the article, who has what is interesting and who is ready to share the info can send to the soap: sancho-1971@i.ua
There is a great desire, but absolutely no time. Soon I do not promise, but to collect, generalize and organize it is necessary.
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  • snaiper
  • 13 февраля 2018, 22:01
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Gathered such a station, 2.1S all business.
But here's the question, it's just me it plugs all over with a little more heat, but even a drop of solder more and the station ceases to cope, she writes that the temperature is flat and pumps only 20 percent, but it is impossible to drink. Sin on substandard stings, which may not have time to give heat, but nowhere to see such complaints, is only lucky to me, although on Ali sold in the top sales.
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it's just me it shuts up all over with a little more heat
What's the big heat drain?
What kind of sting?
the sting itself calibrated?
there is an opportunity to check with stings from another store (may rent from someone someone's friend to take) or your sting on another PS

In principle, this should not be...
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  • snaiper
  • 14 февраля 2018, 00:07
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Sting K, about the smaller and say nothing, all calibrated, and without a load of questions at all, accuracy to a couple of degrees on the range. When it's just a drop of solder all is fine, but if it's a portion of solder more, it just can not cope. In comparison with the hatch - the sting is the truth in it copper, melts subjectively well once 4-5 worse at the same temperature. To rent other kind of nowhere, of course for the sake of interest I order another sting, the main thing is not to lose, the original toad will not allow, and while there is no certainty that is a panacea.
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What temperature do you put on the station?
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  • snaiper
  • 14 февраля 2018, 09:54
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The temperature is more than the melting point of the solder, there is certainly no if you hit the zgt;350 then it gets better, but this is if you compare with nothing. Analic is observed even at a temperature of 300 and a alloy of rose.

I did the experiment, I'm not sure of its correctness of course, one slant "K" poked into the stainless-steel plate with a solder, in a free puddle leaned thermopa, and in this state there is a drawdown of degrees in 30-50, but the station does not see it, and writes that the temperature is 250, well, and its loading is about 20%.
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I don't even know what to say... The temperature is 320-340 degrees on the K-J. Yesterday he had a 6 sq/mm copper wire. Everything was going to go bad - the power jumped up to 55 percent. Try this - take a glass of water and put water in it - I have power instantly jumps up to 100%.
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  • snaiper
  • 14 февраля 2018, 10:40
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That's about the glass thought, most likely, will also be able to 100%, due to the fact that the entire area of the sting will give heat, at the time of heating then it gives everything, but the powder then it will not be better.
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Do all the same experiment with water - on my only surface to touch immediately the power soars to 100 ...
Or as sancho1971 said - you either need to find a stinger at someone to try or what is better person with a similar station and try to work it ...
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  • snaiper
  • 14 февраля 2018, 11:32
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Tried with water, 300 degrees, when immersing the working surfaces of the K-sting power of 70%, goes to a hundred on about half of the tip. At 200 you can at least shove 90% on the handle.

There are no such acquaintances. It seems to have seen above the reference to the sting, with no tao experience, but over time I will overpower and order something more branded.
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It's not a comilfo. I will try to make a video of the "glass of water" on Friday...
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  • Kembrik
  • 14 февраля 2018, 13:39
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They were intrigued. For the sake of interest, too, decided to try. The situation is the same. On work surfaces 60-65%, 100% somewhere just above the middle. But the buoy is comfortable, fell them out of the computer BP wires, where they are in a heap on large landfills, all soldered normally.
It came to mind when the water boils, air bubbles are formed around the sting, and the air, as we know, the thermal conductivity is not very. So it turns out that the tip of the sting does not have time to give heat to the water because of bubbles, and if deeper to drown, due to the increase in area, the heat is also increased.
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  • snaiper
  • 14 февраля 2018, 14:02
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I understand all this, I have a feeling that with a solder sting does not have time to give heat, as I would like. For comparison, I tried the hatch 702 with a bent chisel from copper sting needle - almost 1 in 1 T12 j-02. And if you poke in the die say a centimeter in 2 with a frozen at the bottom of the solder with a temperature of 270 degrees around the sting it instantly becomes liquid, if the same do T12 with j-02 - nothing happens, there is certainly a warm 8-10 seconds or raise qgt;350 but the difference is striking. Yes - copper is the best conductor, but not so much. Or do I want a lot and do not compare at all?
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Sting de... Mo, try to remove the sting cap and drink the crate, if not let into the trash or to plough at high temperatures of 380-400grd. there is the same model D16 mainly use for melting plastic ;)
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  • snaiper
  • 14 февраля 2018, 17:24
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So not with 1 sting, caps removed at once, did not solder, but made there neatly point welding, questions did not arise.
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then only pick up the manufacturer
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  • vulkan35
  • 14 февраля 2018, 18:35
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but done there neatly point welding, no questions arose.
Resistance sting between q and ground measured? How much is the power supply under load?
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  • snaiper
  • 14 февраля 2018, 19:02
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Already measured, aspires to infinity. In general, the resistance sting in the area of 8.2 - 8.4 Om. That's when I tried with water did not look, and so in working modes a couple of tenths of a degree sits down from just the standard 24.
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Tension is not an indicator. We need to know the power. Measure the current consumption from the power supply, or if it is possible to stick the station through the power meter...
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  • snaiper
  • 14 февраля 2018, 21:00
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To regret right that would quickly have nothing to check the power, but to be honest it will be possible only with the immersion of the sting in the water, and this is not a typical mode, in the work I can see that it shakes only 20-30% of the possible and correctly does because of the sensor - the temperature is equal, although in the working part of the sting it can sag by 50-70 degrees in my measurements. and the station just doesn't see it.

Does anyone have the opportunity to poke the "K" sting into anything with a heat drain and poke a heat-parsu in the working area?
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  • vulkan35
  • 15 февраля 2018, 07:41
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The solder in the collected form bought, check properly split the connector on the controller and soldering iron. It would not hurt to check the soldering pad.
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  • snaiper
  • 15 февраля 2018, 09:35
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I was collecting it myself.
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Promised video of my station's work

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  • snaiper
  • 16 февраля 2018, 15:44
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Thank you, the process looks more dynamic than in my case, both with water and ration. Also took bp for comparison, the power you more actively allocate, on small areas up to 40% I have a half times less, up to 40 rose only when a bunch of wires. My K-sting is a little longer and longer, but it's probably not critical. Do you remember the origin of your stings?
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  • Kembrik
  • 16 февраля 2018, 15:59
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By the way, yes, the sting on the video is shorter by 4 mm than the ones we use. I have a regular K.
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  • -wall-
  • 19 февраля 2018, 22:32
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Thank you, the process looks more dynamic than in my case, both with water and ration.
Similarly.
Maybe the power supply is weak. On the assembly they send the weakest option, imho. Such:
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  • -wall-
  • 19 февраля 2018, 22:33
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Or we have a smaller section of wires from the controller to the handle.
The sting had previously been sold out, although there was already a point welding.
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  • snaiper
  • 20 февраля 2018, 01:02
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BP is more square, there were reviews similar - should be enough, the wires are not super, but also not bad. If the problem in these causes the initial heating time would hurt, I think correctly? And so seconds for 6-8 to 300.
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  • -wall-
  • 20 февраля 2018, 09:51
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However, apart from the T12-K, I tried with the T12-D52 - the situation has not changed.
If the problem in these causes the initial heating time would hurt, I think correctly?
Let's try to compare the heating time.
Initial data: controller 2.1S, no sting gauges (there is nothing to accurately measure the temperature of the sting at the moment), included the sleep mode when turning on the station, the ambient temperature - 22.5 degrees, the working temperature - 340, the sting of the solder nothing touches, the start of the heating - pressing on the encoder, the end of the heating - the beep.
T12-K sting: 12.5 sec, 100% shows only 6 seconds, then the power drops and heats up.
T12-D52: 10 sec, 100% shows 4 seconds, then less.
If necessary, pour the video process.
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  • snaiper
  • 20 февраля 2018, 10:40
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The video is not required and so everything is detailed. Everything is the same, 22 degrees surrounding, there is only K, calibrated. 100% shows 7 seconds, just 14 seconds.
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HW Controller, SW.
The sting is a type of KR-calibrated,
The sleep mode is included when the station is turned on, the ambient temperature is 25 degrees, the working temperature is 340, the soldering sting is nothing to do, the start of the heating is the press on the encoder, the end of the heating is a beep.
100% shows 10.5 seconds,
11 seconds - beep, power drops and warms up.
The video of the heating process is above...
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  • -wall-
  • 20 февраля 2018, 13:09
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Maybe different firmware?
I have HW Version, SW Version.

Or, it's a pity, you have to buy a sample of the sting KR or KL, and there is krz.

Measured the voltage drop at the exit of the BP at the warm-up - minuscule, about 0.025 B, measured the drop of voltage on the other side of the wire with the separation, at the entrance to the controller - almost 0.2 V. Dropped the wires with the corrode and drank without eating a wire with a diameter of 1.5 mm. Now the voltage drop at the controller's input is the same as on the BP.
But the heating rate with the K sting remained the same, the response to the stinging in the water remained about the same - the situation has not changed.
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  • snaiper
  • 20 февраля 2018, 13:22
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Yes, the phase of the donagre is much shorter.
My controller is HW, SW.
Find more version differences.
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  • -wall-
  • 20 февраля 2018, 13:46
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Yes, at least, firmware of different versions: 2.10 and 2.11. Maybe it's optimized.
I guess we're going to have to switch. But in addition to the firmware itself, as far as I understand, you will need to activate it?
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  • snaiper
  • 20 февраля 2018, 14:02
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In our case, the activation won't fly off, as I understand it.
But the st-link on his hands is not to check, it is necessary to wait for the Chinese to walk.
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  • -wall-
  • 20 февраля 2018, 14:43
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And once sewing, then at once version 2.12.

The firmware is here.
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  • Kembrik
  • 20 февраля 2018, 22:11
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It's going to fly. :) From 2.11 to 2.12 does not fly.
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  • snaiper
  • 20 февраля 2018, 23:29
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Need to examine the issue, seen just after 2.09 there were significant changes so exactly flies off. And 2.11 at 2.12 there only sting added as far as we know.
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  • -wall-
  • 21 февраля 2018, 00:37
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As far as I understand, having read the discussions, if from 2.09 to sew more fresh, then the activation flies off.
And from 2.10 to 2.11 and from 2.11 to 2.12 - no.
But that's not accurate.
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  • Kembrik
  • 21 февраля 2018, 06:31
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I got it from 2.10. I resold it first at 2.11 and required activation. Then sewed 2.12, did not have to activate.
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  • -wall-
  • 21 февраля 2018, 09:10
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Then activation will be required.
With activation helped Denis aka salamatin?
No one else has a keigen and the algorithm is unknown?
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  • Kembrik
  • 21 февраля 2018, 20:47
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Yes, Denis helped.
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  • Gdn
  • 16 февраля 2018, 18:43
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snaiper
Without seeing it hard to judge, with the video it would be more obvious.

snaiper
February 14, 2018, 2:02 p.m.
Yes - copper is the best conductor, but not so much. Or do I want a lot and do not compare at all?

There are similar comparisons in the e-day, look from 5:00
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  • snaiper
  • 16 февраля 2018, 22:53
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But I've seen this video, and the situation is similar to the moment he tries to hit a button.

For myself came to the conclusion that you need better stings, playing will not help, the station does not see a drop in temperature, because in the place of the temperature sensor equals exposed, and in the working area is significantly smaller. Yes, there is less than a centimeter, and so with 3 stings, just K mass and spread. It will be the Chinese New Year to try my luck with other stings.
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  • snaiper
  • 23 марта 2018, 17:34
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The stings quicklyo came, the process became more dynamic and the spider became pleasant, comparable to the video Dmitriy_1980, so it is better not to skimp on the sting.
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I'm really happy for you! You need to buy yourself a couple to try ... Share links where the stings were taken?
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sting quicko here
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  • snaiper
  • 23 марта 2018, 19:46
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Taken on Ali, the store seems the same as on tao in the link sancho1971, a special difference in price did not notice and it was easier with Ali. I took a set of black "high-quality" stings, which follows from the name, 5 pieces with bcm2, it has not yet tried, and compare actually with nothing. Link
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  • -wall-
  • 26 марта 2018, 10:32
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It turns out that the sting of KSGER (which is mine) sucks.
It would be nice to make a method of testing sting and make a certain base. The more responsive/thermal conductive - the better.
I still have the T12-KR sting with Ebay. And the ST-link still does not come for re-stitching.
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  • snaiper
  • 12 апреля 2018, 20:51
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My first one is also KSGER, and yes, they suck.
But compare you.
As for the technique, I do not imagine a simple repeated technique with high accuracy of measurements, but the stingers can vary from batch to batch or from different sellers visually having 100% similarity.
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  • -wall-
  • 07 мая 2018, 20:43
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I compared the T12-KR stinger.
On the label of the package is the inscription Hakko. Clearly not the original, as the price was a few dollars.
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  • -wall-
  • 07 мая 2018, 22:04
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It heats up like this.
T12-KR: 10 sec, 100% shows 7.5 seconds, then less.
There is a clear increase in the phase of 100% power in relation to the total heating time. The conclusion is that it all depends on the sting.
PS: But the firmware will also have to be changed and checked.
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I also have a heating almost 1 in 1. In the future, too, I plan to update, the benefit with the codes issue has fallen away, but so far it is not critical, everything is fine.
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  • koss00
  • 15 февраля 2018, 15:30
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The comments recommended the seller sting T12 zuicko - but he has the price of sending anything to China 999 yuan! Can you tell me how to get around it?
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on ali at this firm, too, has a shop, and the price is almost the same
aliexpress.com/item/10Pcs-SET-T12-B-T12-D24-T12-C4-ILS-JL02-KU-K-BC2-ILS-BC1-Solder/32799109111.html
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In China New Year, all the stores do not work, whatever is lacking - put delivery to China 999yy
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  • mtkam
  • 16 февраля 2018, 22:10
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Tell me, collected PS on STM32 2.1S 1.3 KSGER in the case, when you turn on that works normally, then asks to enter the activation code, what can be the reason ?
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  • Kvi
  • 17 февраля 2018, 21:13
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2.1S kind of code stores in the outer 24. The I2C connection may periodically break between STM and memory.
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  • vilkin
  • 06 марта 2018, 22:35
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RG1:893E
RG2:F8C7
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  • vilkin
  • 17 февраля 2018, 22:01
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Who has the contents of the eeprom from v2.1s?
It is very necessary...
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just don't and the activation code is stored.
someone else's dump won't help you much.
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  • vilkin
  • 17 февраля 2018, 22:38
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In my case, I hope it will help...
I have it clean, the activation code I have calculated, but it apparently because of this reason does not fit.
You need to fill it and then enter the already calculated code.
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  • Kvi
  • 18 февраля 2018, 16:10
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Rather miscalable. I switched from 2.09 (which has a different code) to 2.1. And the correctly calculated code came up right away.
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  • vilkin
  • 18 февраля 2018, 18:00
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The code is designed for version 2.11/2.12. I'm pouring this firmware.
I don't have a real controller. I wanted to collect it on my own scheme from the Internet.
To begin with, I assembled stm32-oled-eeprom-onkender. Fortunately, I had these things in my possession.
I've got the code counted. But it didn't. Now I'm trying to figure out why. I'm friends with the debager,
i2c can analyze. So far suspicion of incorrect content eeprom. Maybe the reason is different...
The author of the firmware tried in every way to protect himself from fakes. You can measure the physical parameters
on the controller's legs, if it doesn't match the original (for example, on the SWDIO line, the load hangs), then don't accept the code... The real soldering controller I ordered, as will come will sort out. At least I'll put my stm in there and think further.
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  • Kvi
  • 18 февраля 2018, 23:19
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There is a factory dump 24-ki with version 2.09, with which I safely switched to 2.11 and entered the code calculated by Denis.
Where to throw?
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  • vilkin
  • 19 февраля 2018, 21:31
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Thank you! I threw soap at the face.
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  • Kvi
  • 19 февраля 2018, 21:57
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Sent. But there's nothing special. No calibration, no tweaks. It's practically a dump after the first turn on. Except for English.
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  • dskinder
  • 27 февраля 2018, 23:29
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Did the same on the handkerchief stm32 and ice 1.3, the 24s08 at all from the mobile of some not zeroing even, and with the code from Denis (nick salamatin) all perfectly earned. So the content of eeprom doesn't matter.

In the build:


And in the collected form:
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  • vilkin
  • 28 февраля 2018, 00:48
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And I never found a reason why I did not work ... Denis says the code is calculated correctly. 0.96 Display Waiting for the original controller. Eeprom, however, I have 24LC08B but on the date the protocol of work is the same. Where's the stupid? Don't understand.
STM32F103C8 microcontroller instead of STM32F101CB. But the firmware got into it. The firmware check with the contents of the file passes. Looks like it's all 128kbyth flush.
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  • dskinder
  • 28 февраля 2018, 01:24
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I think it's the same thing in the copy or brand eeprom, try to replace.
I have the same processor - 103
And what scheme were collected? SDA-A1 SCL-A0 should be!
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  • vilkin
  • 28 февраля 2018, 22:16
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Collected on the scheme of this theme for v2.1s, and so there is SDA-A1 SCL-A0.
The program writes and reads it, looked at usbee's logical analyzer.
Went the Debugger Keil on the code ... Found different procedures and points for code verification,
And then you're putting messages on the screen... but he never did it to the end. Dropped the research before the arrival of the original or the purchase of the correct 24s08. specially followed her to go shopping lazily.
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  • limoncn
  • 05 апреля 2018, 21:00
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How did EEPROM win?
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  • vilkin
  • 05 апреля 2018, 23:39
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No, I didn't do it, then... And now there is simply no time, there are more pressing tasks.
The controller of the original came, the correct 24s08 bought. I read an article about successful hacking and keigen... In any case, I want to repeat the hacking yourself. I hope to get back to that later.
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  • limoncn
  • 06 апреля 2018, 19:25
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I started with 24c16 with 24s32 not working...

I was tormented to change my tongue afterwards... From Chinese...
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24s32 didn't work...
chips with a square tire, there are still 16 bits.
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Here somewhere wrote that if you clamp the encoder and turn on the station you will immediately receive a request for the choice of language ...
P.S. I tried it, but also had to re-calibrate all the stings and set the settings :(, as there is not only a change in the language of the interface and the initial initialization ... The truth is said: --"Don't interfere with the technique of working!!!!"
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Dima, you just made a hard-cutter - a reset to the factory settings. And when you start, the language is always asked at the beginning.
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  • limoncn
  • 01 апреля 2018, 15:17
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What were the Mosfets put on the management of the soldering iron?
How does the soldering temperature readings don't lie?
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on the radiokot there is a good branch on the soldering stations on the stings of T12
Polish theme on the subject of mosfets used
here's a version of the scheme
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  • mtkam
  • 18 февраля 2018, 16:20
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Looked at the oscillograph, on 5, 6 leg of memory code is transmitted to stm when downloaded, the Chinese promised to send the code after the festival on February 26, there we'll see
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  • anton713
  • 20 февраля 2018, 08:44
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KSGER Soldering Iron Station T12 Sting STM32 1.3 OLED DIY Kits FX9501 Handle Electric Toolsing Tips Temperature Controller v2.0. When turned on immediately warms up the sting to infinity displays the measured temperature of 60 degrees. Tried to turn on without a handle, the error does not give out, the situation is the same writes 60 degrees and gives full power. What could it be? Thank you.
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Check the fee on the non-pay, and on sticking solder on the adjacent components.
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Without having a link to the kit it is difficult to judge the set-up and even more so to give advice
The wires in the handle and the connectors itself swung?
Check the snot on the board, the correctness of the swing...

Something recently KSGER began to tuft to send
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  • anton713
  • 21 февраля 2018, 09:50
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Check the snot on the board, the correctness of the swing...
There's a lot of information, connection schemes...
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  • anton713
  • 23 февраля 2018, 15:06
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checked the scheme, differ the denominations of resistors. for version 2.0 should be the same denominations as for 2.1?
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  • anton713
  • 23 февраля 2018, 16:25
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Version 2.01 scheme found not...
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If you look closely, the version 2.00 (as I have in the review) and version 2.01 differ only by connecting the connector for the soldering pen.
At v2.00 - plume to the connector
On v2.01 - connector in the fee
And it's all the same version 2.0

If everything is collected (and I understand, you bought already assembled station) and does not work properly - make a claim to the store.
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  • anton713
  • 24 февраля 2018, 10:13
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I bought everything in the collection. Found the scheme checked the denominations, everything fits, sin on the smt32 itself. Claims made return only a third of the value ...
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Well, only a third...
body, soldering iron, BP - everything's kind of working...
Then try to re-ask the controller itself, maybe a software glitch
that's how it is,the firmware themselves are on Yandex and gugul discs
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  • -wall-
  • 24 февраля 2018, 10:39
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Is that what Ali's dispute meant? Did they demand a full refund?
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  • anton713
  • 24 февраля 2018, 10:46
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Yes, that's what Ali awarded. The seller first agreed to return the money completely, then changed his mind)))
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  • -wall-
  • 24 февраля 2018, 11:02
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Yes, once again I am convinced that Aliexpress has spoiled in terms of disputes.
Returning only a third of the amount for a device that doesn't actually perform its functions is a swine, of course.
I myself faced these changes not very long ago - for the purchased device with damaged corrosi with general received a denial of compensation and mediation confirmed the decision.
I do the right thing, that now I buy on AliExpress only that can not be bought elsewhere.
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there's more arbitration.
although they can award a partial refund without a refund, or a full refund.
Consider that it is advantageous for you to send back at your own expense, or to buy a stm-ku for a couple of shares.
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first, check the ou, it turns out the controller sees a cold sting, and frys to the full.
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turns out the inspector sees a cold sting
he sees it even when there is actually a sting missing!!!
See the U3 operating room (scheme at the end of the review)
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so I'm about what, those have a sting or not, the inspector sees its presence as well as cold.

s.s.
soon I'll be the owner of the station, too,
ordered the station set.
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  • anton713
  • 24 февраля 2018, 13:47
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my scheme
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Good job
Judging by the display connector it's for version 2.0
Did you draw it himself?
you can send a file with a scheme to mail sancho-1971@i.ua, or the quality of the picture is not very, I will add at the end of the review
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  • anton713
  • 24 февраля 2018, 14:02
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found in the expanses. scheme sent
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Added at the end of the review, noted who provided the info and posted on Google
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  • anton713
  • 24 февраля 2018, 15:10
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I dig further, until I win, I'll write it off.
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  • anton713
  • 24 февраля 2018, 23:26
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U3 strapping is normal, but when you click on U3 readings begin to change, the error does not appear, but the temperature jumps. the question is how to replace U3? looking for an analogue or donor.
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  • anton713
  • 25 февраля 2018, 07:59
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This information is there. Just to make an order for one element do not want, I can dig on donors.
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  • dskinder
  • 27 февраля 2018, 23:44
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Especially not to look for exactly 8551, works well lm358, checked, I then found in the jars 33272, it is better than 358, put but not much has changed, and so it works!
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  • DmitryA
  • 26 марта 2018, 18:45
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The zero shift lm358 to 7mV, for the type K thermopapa (aluminium-chromel) is up to 172 degrees of error... After calibrating zero we still have a temperature drift of up to 20mkV/degree, i.e. if the temperature changes lm'ki by 10 degrees, the error will be up to 5 degrees.
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Totally agree, everything is true, the shift is compensated by the program, so the main thing is drift. That's why I put 33272, it's better than 358. But in the absence of precision operating theatres, lm 358 is quite a working solution, care at 5, and 10 degrees for soldering iron is not terrible. Moreover, the typical drift is 3 times smaller - 7 microv and the care will be 2 degrees when lm changes by 10. Perfectionists, of course, better SGM8552 to deliver.
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  • GreyAlex
  • 26 февраля 2018, 16:37
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After so much time the theme is alive.
Then such a question, is there at least one soldering station or soldering iron, which IS NOT TO DO?
Bakon is already on T13 and that in it something whistles, then sparks, then all ok, lottery.
T12 DIY can send STC can STM32, and the Chinese sting is already burning at the base and the basket where the cartridge shoves, spoils.
TS100 well, I will use 1 stinger, but it is necessary to collectively BP from 400r to 1.5-2k - the cost of the soldering 3k (it seems that the original eminent whatever you take)
Yihua/CXG/A-BF and cheaper analogues without a takeaway BP are based on 900 stings that have not the best contact with the heater. Or make a paste that can lead to a burst heater.

Here I am not a radio lover, but I want a normal soldering iron, or I have 2 pieces, bison on 60VT, which is warm so that it is not possible to drink, and some of Obi, on old technologies, you can drink, but to touch the phone inside is not worth it, and I need to drink an audio break.
What to do, who to take? Spit and take on the 900s and not steaming refinements?
Another problem, wires 1.2m me a little, I do not have a normal workplace, need 1.7-2 meters of wire in the end.
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On my own I can say that I also had questions on the purchase (took on TAO) and on work. But I solved them all safely largely thanks to the support of Alexander and Yuri. The station is completely satisfied - the stings are all alive, perfectly soldered and do not melt. I have a pen "fashionable" :), I collected it myself - so what length of wire was needed and made. You just need to carefully examine the reviews and comments and then the questions will be much less.
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Then such a question, is there at least one soldering station or soldering iron, which IS NOT TO DO?
There are - branded, bought in the official store with an official guarantee for a fairly round sum.
If you can not afford the option offered above, then buy something easier.
And again, looking at what for you the process of re-cutting:
- if the hands are from the right place, finishing turns into a fascinating activity to improve the existing product
"If ... you know, you don't even have to start, it won't be good.

Again, without knowing your financial capabilities and relationships with the amphibian, it is difficult to offer anything...
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  • GreyAlex
  • 27 февраля 2018, 01:14
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Budget, no more than the cost of the TS100, more precisely, I consider it excessively expensive and do not consider how much I want, and therefore lower the bar. From here, up to 2k.
I get a soldering head once every 2-4 weeks, I use it for about an hour.
In my plans to try on HTC One X and Redmi Note 3 Pro to warm up the solder on the legs of the audio game. On HOX exactly have cracks in the solder, on RN3P did not notice, but the trouble consider as the first phone. I do not want to pay the service for the requested 3k, I am ready to try to repair, the small thing had to fall. Total I believe that we need a solder with thermal adjustment, and the ability to warm the connector case because there and the body and the contacts themselves need to warm.

Hands, well, I'm not saying that I'm a crustacean, I successfully changed the miriks on mice, replaced the audio connector on the column, ploughed the protection board at the small acc for the copter.

Experiencing problems, it's I have little room for tool storage, at the bottom wrote fx-888d, it's definitely nowhere to put. Bacon can still be stuffed, and T12 although they with their cables take up not a lot of space.
That's not even know, maybe it's easier for CXG to take and build up a stupid wire.
I don't know what's got. There's some finishes everywhere.
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  • vulkan35
  • 26 февраля 2018, 20:36
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The easiest option to buy used to the original FX-888D, plus copper stings.
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  • DeCodeR
  • 06 марта 2018, 22:45
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Code generator to activate updated firmware:
t12.omegahg.com/keygen.htm
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posting a link to the kaygen it was necessary and to the article and the author of the link to give
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DeCodeR
Ai is not nice to copy, the author of this article mysku.ru/blog/aliexpress/58619.html
And here's the whole process: habrahabr.ru/post/350602/
I applaud standing up!!!
A lot of work has been done, well done!!!
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  • DmitryA
  • 07 марта 2018, 03:12
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Thank you Jura!
The work isn't finished yet. Moving on ;)
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You're just a human being, with a capital letter! Thanks for the article and the kaygen :)
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  • firebie
  • 07 марта 2018, 10:22
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It's been slipping around here.
The Portuguese bought the old version on stm32 and decided to write his firmware:
www.ptdreamer.com/
github.com/PTDreamer/stm32_soldering_iron_controller.git
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This is not the version, let him do... it will be interesting to see ;)
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  • firebie
  • 07 марта 2018, 11:26
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I also wrote "The Portuguese bought the old version."
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It's just a different controller on STM32 (another project) it's completely different in software and circuitry.
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This is not an old version, but a completely different development
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I looked at that Portuguese blog...
There's almost nothing useful :(
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  • firebie
  • 07 марта 2018, 13:36
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What about the code?
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code for our station is useless
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the functionality of that project is much weaker than described here.
although the Portuguese may increase it.
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Dima now wait for the author in the comments)))
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The work isn't finished yet. Moving on ;)
Where are you going?
You don't plan to change the temperature at three calibration points, for example, 350 degrees. Who is shooting at 450 degrees, it is scary even at the time of calibration to rape the sting.
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  • DmitryA
  • 12 марта 2018, 19:28
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While I'm sorting out the logic of the firmware. In the near future, I plan to remove the transitional characteristics of different types of stings (I have more than 10) and to promote management models. You don't really want to sculpt a banal PID.

The calibration points can be done as much as you like. Any offers are accepted. Including changing the interface and functionality when paired with Big Brother.

There is an idea to make a small HAL on C/C, which will hide all work with iron. And the logic and interface to implement in the script language, such as LUA or Squirrel. For the latter, it is easy to screw the BB-debugger, based on any transport. Debauching like a royal right out of Visual Studio. With script logic customization of firmware will become trivial, without the risk of anything to ditch a banal mistake, for example hanging SHIM.

The issue of the tin pump (Desolder) is still open, I do not have such iron. Without the ability to test - I do not see the point of implementing it. But on his pins you could hang something hardware I2C-no (on the feet of EEPROM hardware I2C is not).
About the adapter's bluetooth is not all smooth - UART pins are not taken anywhere, and not everyone will be able to fall directly to the feet of the processor.

In order not to be flooded here, I can make a post in Yu, for discussion by all interested parties.
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can make a post in q, to discuss by all interested parties.
It wouldn't be a bad thing.
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Who is shooting at 450 degrees, it is scary even at the time of calibration to rape the sting.
I didn't burn it until I calibrated it;-)))
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  • Kembrik
  • 13 марта 2018, 14:35
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The sting was bought with the inscription KSGER on the package. The BC3 sting has always worked at 300 degrees, quite little worked and shorted plus on the body. Sting BCF3: After 400 starts to jump on the screen temperature. When warmed up to 480 gives ERROR, cools down, then again the error. On the screen, frantic temperature spikes mixed with the inscription ERROR, it is impossible to use at this temperature. At 300 degrees, he's doing fine. With a strong warm-up, probably also shortens to the body. The K sting behaves normally, even at 480 the temperature keeps stable, nothing jumps.
So yes, at maximum temperatures for cheap stings a little scary. :)
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I buy the sting of the quicko
Brought myself and to order, until no one complained
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I buy the sting of the quicko
Took to the test microwave LSTAR a little more expensive quality excellent.

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Thanks for the link, let's look, think
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  • firebie
  • 13 марта 2018, 16:20
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They're on, but they're quicko.aliexpress.com/store/2954088
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  • firebie
  • 13 марта 2018, 16:23
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About their XA, they don't change color even at 480 degrees.
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what you hear about the new firmware, the author did not appear, from March 1 passed :)
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Unfortunately, the author does not answer... thank you for reminding me of spring ;)
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Woka C245 Controller

Video Video 2

JBC 2HEX-A Controller
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WOKA does and for T12 sting controllers

but they have their own development
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Sasha here's the final of the "designer" board version 2.1S in lay6 format
drive.google.com/open?id=1NZ3IcKBvDoONZ4i4Oxm305XMdgmKMCgX
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Well, actually, I've had it for a long time.
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I looked everywhere and there is no one, let it be for the full set)))
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  • limoncn
  • 01 апреля 2018, 15:31
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ооо классно)))
платка копия оригинала)))
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на гугл-диске ищи в дополнениях
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В копилку номиналы OLED

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once the drunk was going on, I'll post what I found on the net.
If there was already that sorori :)
SSD1306 OLED
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  • vik56
  • 02 апреля 2018, 16:42
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Hello, I want to collect v2.1s myself, can not understand the display, on ali everywhere sold with the controller sh1106, they will fit? And I can't find 249k 1%, on Ali found 5000pc, no one on the opposite of the reference does not throw, can anyone buy?
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on ali everywhere sold with inspector sh1106, will they fit?
Come, just take with a square tire.
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  • limoncn
  • 02 апреля 2018, 23:47
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On the score of 249k Om put 2 resistors sequentially and of them collect 249k...
For example, take 120k and 130k with 5% tolerance from a bunch choose those that in total will give 249k ...

Sh1106 needs an I2C tire...
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  • vik56
  • 02 апреля 2018, 17:25
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Okay, okay.
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need the help of a collective mind
took such a station,
I did a little bit of work, then turned off the screen.
switched back when I got off the battery (the battery didn't work)
It worked a little bit again.

and the moustache, now I have a rich station with sound control

Where to look/dig and whether it's worth it
on the screen goes 3v, through the control channels something dances too up to 3V. The wake tells us that the feet of the stm are connected to the norms up to the screen
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  • olmer
  • 12 мая 2018, 09:21
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It was such: when washing the place of rations got alcohol-gas on the board of the display module, after which it stopped to show signs of life. I had to pop out the module and thoroughly wash away the remnants of the flux (the Chinese did not wash away), then everything worked. The controller board is also better to rinse thoroughly.
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Sash, you don't have any reference to the BP from the review?
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The link is in the review, but no longer working...
they're no longer on sale since the summer
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I thought just the link had faded ;(
You can copy the name of the lot in Chinese from your purchases and paste it here, right?
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I have one, it's very hard to put on my enclosure
And how exactly does not climb?
they are the same in width, there is no place for the length?
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There's no room for length?
In the back, the throttle rests on the white connector on the board
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would live next door, change
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If only...
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  • deminrv
  • 05 августа 2018, 11:46
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Hello. I'm a beginner, bought a ready-assembled soldering station Ve2.1S_JBC_ and _T12 on KSGER (for JBC on the board you need to break the jumper). Caught defective - constantly gives food at full power overheating sting, even in SLEEP mode (when food should not be served), constantly blinks ERROR (with and without a sting). The soldering from my bought station tried at a friend at his station works normally (meaning the reason is not in it). Called all the chains from the soldering iron to the legs of STM32 - all right. Tell me, this could be due to a firmware failure. At the same time, without a soldering iron on the menu, the cursor moves and everything is installed, when the handle is connected without a sting, the station sees it - the temperature in the bottom right corner begins to show - 26 degrees. The dispute opened, but I would like to repair.
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  • deminrv
  • 05 августа 2018, 23:43
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Called again all the tracks, resistors - everything is normal (not drunk no, resistors have a face value according to the scheme). I've been blinking at all with ERROR alternating with a temperature of 230 to 415 degrees. The electrolyte fell on the output of 3.3B - began to burn constantly ERROR (without blinking and not alternating with the display of temperature).
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constantly blinking ERROR alternating with the temperature of 230 then 415 degrees
it's not about resistors, there's no contact with the stinger in the handle, or it's not the right pins
Check
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  • deminrv
  • 06 августа 2018, 19:55
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Contact with the sting is - heated to red (heating the stinger is always at once, does not turn off even in SLEEP mode). When you plug in a handle without a sting, the station detects it - a temperature icon appears in the bottom right corner (instead of an exclamation point) and the temperature is displayed at 28 degrees. The handle was disassembled and made a ringing from the pins of the handle to the corresponding STM legs according to the scheme - the contacts are sealed correctly. I've already laundered the flux, lost all the details (suddenly unspeed) - nothing helps. When I received the parcel, at the first turn on the station - the sting immediately warmed to the red, turned off the station. Turned on again - earned, normally showed the temperature of the sting, worked 5 minutes. Then I put it into Sleep mode, after cooling down the sting turned off the 220V tumbler. The next day, when turned on, she started to show ERROR again and heat the sting to red. The multimeter checked on the shutter of the power field constantly 22.5B and it is open, the voltage to the base of the control field transistor S9013W with STM is not served. And it's not clear to me whether the firmware is glitching or the port on the STM is covered. Why doesn't STM control bipolar?
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  • dellian
  • 08 августа 2018, 13:58
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Does that happen to everyone? Maybe in the most sorry contacts are confused and the thermopara polarity is reversed - it would explain warming up to red, as in the firmware there is no protection against the wrong polarity of the thermopara. However, then does not fit the case when worked out normally all the time.
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  • deminrv
  • 06 августа 2018, 20:46
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scheme of my board 2.1s
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Try to re-ask T12_HW21S_Encryption-SH1106.hex (2.11 or 2.12), have me on Google disk
request activation, use keigen
All links in review
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  • GreyAlex
  • 08 августа 2018, 21:25
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The topic here is still alive, maybe the main visitors will be interested.
Above the soldering iron-out TS80
https://www.banggood.com/ru/MINI-TS80-Digital-OLED-USB-Type-C-Programable-Soldering-Iron-Station-Solder-Tool-Built-in-STM32-Chip-p-1330060.html
I saw it in reviews a couple of months ago, but even like a bed and a set, but, it is already on the off site miniware
www.miniware.com.cn/product/ts80-soldering-iron-main-2/
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  • deminrv
  • 12 августа 2018, 20:40
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I haven't changed the firmware yet, the programr hasn't come. Tell us what you can replace TPC8107. I think I have a problem with it, fell bipolar S9013W and on the board crossed the contact area of the collector with the ground - still on the shutter of the power field TPC8107 22.5B. And according to the idea with the divider R3 (2k) and R4 (1k) should be fed 8 volts. Maybe I had a power pole. I do not know what to replace it more suitable, maybe someone has already changed (or we do not sell such in Luhansk).
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  • deminrv
  • 13 августа 2018, 20:10
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Please tell me what to replace TCP8107. I understand it burned down. It is a "R" channel field, at a voltage of 22.5 volts on the shutter should be closed, and it is open and puts the voltage on the soldering iron.
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there are no complete analogues, they are used in battery controllers. and about the changed collector with the ground, then it should open.

P.s. in the solder can apply any key suitable for current and tension, hinged gag
P.P.S. R-Channel, managed by low potential on shutters
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  • deminrv
  • 13 августа 2018, 22:28
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It turned out not to be working TCP8107 (I just did not immediately notice that it is "P" channel, and thought "N" channel and wrong as they say digging). Replaced and the station is working. Please tell me about the future than you can replace TPC8107 - we can't buy one in Luhansk.
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TPC8107 Transistor

TPC8107 — MOSFET, P-channel, Lithium Ion Battery, Notebook PC, Portable Equipment, 30V, 13A, SOP-8

Lithium Ion Battery Applications
Notebook PC Applications
Portable Equipment Applications

for example here
dalincom.ru/goods-8166.html
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  • deminrv
  • 16 августа 2018, 19:53
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Thanks for the link, but you have a lot of companies in Russia where you can buy. In Luhansk (LNR), you can't buy such poles and can't bring them from Russia. That's why I ask what is better analogue (I don't know much yet).
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  • dmitrkov
  • 14 сентября 2018, 11:35
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For the 3.0 version of the controller, is there a code generator anywhere?
Got a new controller from China, and he asks for code. The seller is freezing.
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No, there's a different code.
I had a similar situation,I dropped the v3.0 controller on the factory settings and after the restart it requested the code
Writing to a seller, send a screenshot/photo with the code on the display and demand a response combination

If only received, and sold is frozen - open the dispute, the goods are not working, let him send a new or return the money

and you don't have to bother, find/buy a software programr for STM32 and stitch firmware from v2.0, links to firmware and keigen are in this review.
I've already done mine and my head doesn't hurt.

If you don't, write me a face
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  • dmitrkov
  • 14 сентября 2018, 13:59
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Thank you! There is a programr. I'll try. Firmware should be exactly 2.0 or can and from 2.1?
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2.0.
2.1S has a different display.
Don't bother, the firmware is exactly the same functionally
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  • vulkan35
  • 24 октября 2018, 10:17
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Maybe someone had an extra pen, and 2 - 3 stings from this list T12-D08, T12-D12, T12-ILS, T12-C08, T12-C1.
Pen and sting for unisolder controller tests, for a couple of months. At the end of the tests, the unisolder test controller will be returned as a gift.

forward at your expense.
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There's an extra pen and a sting, I can send it out tomorrow.
P.S. Ukraine. If you are interested in writing in person...
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The other day at Radiocote I was asked about fashion for a combo with encoders.
I also still write about activation of the soldering station.
The problem is that those who honestly bought a soldering station, sometimes takes out EEPROM and the station ceases to function and asks for activation. Or if you try to re-ask from 2.09 to 2.12, the activation window will appear again.
For those who honestly purchased the activated soldering station and got into the situation that the soldering station can no longer be used and it again requires activation now there are 6 firmware (all versions 2.12)
1. 2.1S non-activation display 1.3 (NA mod).
2. 2.1S non-activation, display 1.3, inverted encoder (NAE mod).
3. 2.0 Non-Activation Display 0.96.
4. 2.0 Non-activation, 0.96 display, inverted encoder.
5. 2.0 Non-Activation Display 1.3.
6. 2.0 Non-activation, 1.3 display, inverted encoder.
This version allows you to work with a faulty EEPROM, but the settings will not be saved.

P.S. Dekus is my nickname on the radio.
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Can I get the files?
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  • -wall-
  • 18 ноября 2019, 16:15
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The soldering station began to request activation.
Entering codes doesn't solve the problem.
Occasionally the station starts and then already works normally until the moment of disconnection.
Can you share a non-activation firmware for 2.1S?
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In your case, this won't solve the problem of keeping your settings. With each turn on, they will be reset due to problems with 24C08. 100% solve your problem can be by melting on a serviceable 24C08 (suitable and 24C16, the rest are not) and by ringing/drinking from it the track to the feet of the MK and checking the presence of a suspender by resistors on two lines of I2C and its power, firmware version 2.12 (if never passed, the keygen works only if the version of the firmware 2.10 and above) and then once activated keigen. Then the soldering station will work as usual. I have written in general all the conditions, maybe some you can have and fulfilled.
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  • -wall-
  • 18 ноября 2019, 18:56
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In your case, this won't solve the problem of keeping your settings. With each turn on, they will be reset due to problems with 24C08. 100% solve your problem can be by melting on a serviceable 24C08 (suitable and 24C16, the rest are not) and by ringing/drinking from it the track to the feet of the MK and checking the presence of a suspender by resistors on two lines of I2C and its power, firmware version 2.12 (if never passed, the keygen works only if the version of the firmware 2.10 and above) and then once activated keigen. Then the soldering station will work as usual. I have written in general all the conditions, maybe some you can have and fulfilled.

I understand that.
But at least I could use the station if there was a firmware with "unscored activation."
PS: Firmware 2.12 has already been stitched.
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find 24S08, as an option you can blow off the RSI network cards, drink and use
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  • -wall-
  • 19 ноября 2019, 11:11
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Yes thank you.
If I were on my side, I wouldn't ask questions about the firmware with the activation checked turned off.
I had to uncover an old soldering iron so far. :(
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  • firebie
  • 19 ноября 2019, 11:15
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And to start should be faster.
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  • Dwitty
  • 22 ноября 2019, 18:02
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2.12 last? No more updates?
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  • Kembrik
  • 22 ноября 2019, 20:52
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What's there to update? I think it's working fine.

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